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Re: SynthCube Delivers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by needspeed » Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:20 am

tobb wrote:
needspeed wrote: It is going to take a long time to inventory this :eek:
needspeed? ;)
If you are asking have I done it yet, then no.

I may start later today as I am hoping Roman starts to ship next week and I ordered within a couple of hours of the pay balance was announced........Steve
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Post by synthcube » Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:38 am

SMT caps: repeat after me: 1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9....10..11...12...
(long interlude) ...687...688... whew! they're all there.

499ohm metal film resistors: repeat after me: 1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...
(long interlude) ...222....223....224....whew! all there....

.. and so it continues for another, oh, 3,850 parts or so

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Post by needspeed » Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:55 am

synthcube wrote:SMT caps: repeat after me: 1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9....10..11...12...
(long interlude) ...687...688... whew! they're all there.

499ohm metal film resistors: repeat after me: 1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...
(long interlude) ...222....223....224....whew! all there....

.. and so it continues for another, oh, 3,850 parts or so

:)
Well now that I think about I bought all of my parts from you so I have no need to do an inventory as I know that you guys are the very best and could never be less than perfect. What a relief now that I just know it is all there........Steve
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Post by DvStcH » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:05 pm

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I agree, but due to the size of the project, it will be a fine challenge for many even with experience. This will be one hell of a DIY for someone who has done little to no DIY in the past......Steve[/quote]

^^^ This is basically me.

I've been building a year and although I've got a fair few thru hole projects under my belt (living vco was the most complicated so far and I still haven't finished the rr80 from old crow...) I'm fairly nervous about this whole project.
smd caps don't seem so bad... I can test them by making sure only one side bleeps to ground... what could go wrong (*AAAH!) :omg: :deadbanana:

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Post by synthcube » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:08 pm

yes, by that two hundredth-or-so SMD cap, you'll be doing them in your sleep :)
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Post by fuzzbass » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:38 pm

synthcube wrote:yes, by that two hundredth-or-so SMD cap, you'll be doing them in your sleep :)
Does this mean I will be doing them without thinking, or seeing myself still doing them while I dream?

Also, Black and Decker stock rose today on rumors of high demand for toaster ovens.
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Post by needspeed » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:47 pm

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synthcube wrote:yes, by that two hundredth-or-so SMD cap, you'll be doing them in your sleep :)
Does this mean I will be doing them without thinking, or seeing myself still doing them while I dream?

Also, Black and Decker stock rose today on rumors of high demand for toaster ovens.
A project as magnificent as Deckards Dream deserves this $400 beauty, not a common B&D Tony!!!!!

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Roman Confirms Kits Ship 10/10

Post by needspeed » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:58 pm

Roman confirmed on FB that kits will ship on the 10th which is actually today in Japan!!!!!!!

Shipping will be via Japan Post International priority with tracking.

Look forward to hearing about shipping notifications from anyone who sees one including me!!!!!........Steve
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Post by sduck » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:08 pm

Japan post can be ridiculously fast sometimes. Not always, but sometimes. I've had things get here the day after I ordered them.
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Post by needspeed » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:10 pm

sduck wrote:Japan post can be ridiculously fast sometimes. Not always, but sometimes. I've had things get here the day after I ordered them.
Especially if you are in Japan!!!!! Thanks sduck, that is really good to hear so we will see within days!!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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SynthCube BOM Corrections

Post by needspeed » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:42 pm

From Shaun Farley on FB concerning SynthCube BOM vs Roman's latest BOM:

These were the discrepancies of note that I found:
- 2 120K resistors for the main board
- Synthcube list mentions 2 44-pin edge connectors for the main board vs. 9 on the official BOM
- 304 30K resistors for the voice cards aren't on Synthcube BOM

I asked SynthCube the following: Shaun stated that you got back to him confirming his observations. When might you update the BOM on your website.....Thanks....Steve

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I would expect that they will send these out as back-orders to those of us who already have received our parts kits from them or are already in transit.

SynthCube please confirm and thank you for your support...Steve
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Post by jimfowler » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:59 pm

I have that toaster oven. Its nice. I'm fairly certain my wife would be less than pleased if I decided to repurpose it.

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Post by needspeed » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:03 pm

jimfowler wrote:I have that toaster oven. Its nice. I'm fairly certain my wife would be less than pleased if I decided to repurpose it.
Get Her the B&D!!!! as this one looks like a mighty fine base for a home brew re-flow oven :mrgreen: ......Steve
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Re: SynthCube BOM Corrections

Post by synthcube » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:17 am

needspeed wrote:From Shaun Farley on FB concerning SynthCube BOM vs Roman's latest BOM:

These were the discrepancies of note that I found:
- 2 120K resistors for the main board
- Synthcube list mentions 2 44-pin edge connectors for the main board vs. 9 on the official BOM
- 304 30K resistors for the voice cards aren't on Synthcube BOM

I asked SynthCube the following: Shaun stated that you got back to him confirming his observations. When might you update the BOM on your website.....Thanks....Steve

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I would expect that they will send these out as back-orders to those of us who already have received our parts kits from them or are already in transit.

SynthCube please confirm and thank you for your support...Steve
Yes, we've revised the synthCUbe BOM and will be posting it later today. These additional parts will go out in the backorder parts shipments to those who have received kits, and will be included in the kits still being made.
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Re: SynthCube BOM Corrections

Post by needspeed » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:27 am

synthcube wrote:
needspeed wrote:From Shaun Farley on FB concerning SynthCube BOM vs Roman's latest BOM:

These were the discrepancies of note that I found:
- 2 120K resistors for the main board
- Synthcube list mentions 2 44-pin edge connectors for the main board vs. 9 on the official BOM
- 304 30K resistors for the voice cards aren't on Synthcube BOM

I asked SynthCube the following: Shaun stated that you got back to him confirming his observations. When might you update the BOM on your website.....Thanks....Steve

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I would expect that they will send these out as back-orders to those of us who already have received our parts kits from them or are already in transit.

SynthCube please confirm and thank you for your support...Steve
Yes, we've revised the synthCUbe BOM and will be posting it later today. These additional parts will go out in the backorder parts shipments to those who have received kits, and will be included in the kits still being made.
Awesome and thank you so much for your support and commitment to this epic project.....Steve
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DDRM Kits Are Shipping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by needspeed » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:47 am

Exciting news as Roman sent me a pic of my package with a shipping label affixed with my name and address. They are starting to go out so start heating up your soldering irons!!!!!!!!!!! Also don't forget magnification for all those lovely SMTs
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Post by ultravox » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:21 am

That's great news needspeed! I'll probably bake on the SMD caps and install the sockets before I head out of town. Then finish the build when I return in November.

Things may have changed since my ET days in the 90's but we used to find cracked SMD caps after machine soldering in our lab. They weren't easy to spot by eye but we would have problems with various circuits. This may not be an issue for us here but it's something to keep in mind since we'll be soldering 600+ of these little buggers.

For those on the fence about getting synthcube's parts kit or source everything yourself... I recommend getting the parts kit!! While you may save a little money sourcing on your own you'll have to deal with vendors all over the world trying to get everything this month that's backordered on Mouser. I sourced the parts myself and I think I'm a few years older from it...
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Post by needspeed » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:26 am

ultravox wrote:That's great news needspeed! I'll probably bake on the SMD caps and install the sockets before I head out of town. Then finish the build when I return in November.

Things may have changed since my ET days in the 90's but we used to find cracked SMD caps after machine soldering in our lab. They weren't easy to spot by eye but we would have problems with various circuits. This may not be an issue for us here but it's something to keep in mind since we'll be soldering 600+ of these little buggers.

For those on the fence about getting synthcube's parts kit or source everything yourself... I recommend getting the parts kit!! While you may save a little money sourcing on your own you'll have to deal with vendors all over the world trying to get everything this month that's backordered on Mouser. I sourced the parts myself and I think a a few years older from it...
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Wise words, indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: SynthCube BOM Corrections

Post by sraiphin » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:20 pm

needspeed wrote:From Shaun Farley on FB concerning SynthCube BOM vs Roman's latest BOM:

These were the discrepancies of note that I found:
- 2 120K resistors for the main board
- Synthcube list mentions 2 44-pin edge connectors for the main board vs. 9 on the official BOM
- 304 30K resistors for the voice cards aren't on Synthcube BOM

I asked SynthCube the following: Shaun stated that you got back to him confirming his observations. When might you update the BOM on your website.....Thanks....Steve

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I would expect that they will send these out as back-orders to those of us who already have received our parts kits from them or are already in transit.

SynthCube please confirm and thank you for your support...Steve
Yeah. It took me about two hours to go through the two BOMs with a fine toothed comb, but I'm glad I did. Definitely prefer to find these things out before I start inventorying when the stuff arrives. Big thanks to SynthCube for taking point on assembling these kits, and for the awesome customer support! You rock!

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Re: SynthCube BOM Corrections

Post by needspeed » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:22 pm

sraiphin wrote:
needspeed wrote:From Shaun Farley on FB concerning SynthCube BOM vs Roman's latest BOM:

These were the discrepancies of note that I found:
- 2 120K resistors for the main board
- Synthcube list mentions 2 44-pin edge connectors for the main board vs. 9 on the official BOM
- 304 30K resistors for the voice cards aren't on Synthcube BOM

I asked SynthCube the following: Shaun stated that you got back to him confirming his observations. When might you update the BOM on your website.....Thanks....Steve

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I would expect that they will send these out as back-orders to those of us who already have received our parts kits from them or are already in transit.

SynthCube please confirm and thank you for your support...Steve
Yeah. It took me about two hours to go through the two BOMs with a fine toothed comb, but I'm glad I did. Definitely prefer to find these things out before I start inventorying when the stuff arrives. Big thanks to SynthCube for taking point on assembling these kits, and for the awesome customer support! You rock!
Big thanks to you for the effort for the benefit of the community it was no small task.....Thanks....Steve
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Post by sraiphin » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:53 pm

I should probably also note that the comparison was with the latest official BOM ("1.05"); it's still possible more could change.

Another item omitted from the SynthCube BOM was the recently added USB A to USB B adapter, but I didn't see the point in mentioning that to them. I mean...really...who here doesn't have a spare USB cable laying around? ;)

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Post by fuzzbass » Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:20 am

ultravox wrote:That's great news needspeed! I'll probably bake on the SMD caps and install the sockets before I head out of town. Then finish the build when I return in November.

Things may have changed since my ET days in the 90's but we used to find cracked SMD caps after machine soldering in our lab. They weren't easy to spot by eye but we would have problems with various circuits. This may not be an issue for us here but it's something to keep in mind since we'll be soldering 600+ of these little buggers.

For those on the fence about getting synthcube's parts kit or source everything yourself... I recommend getting the parts kit!! While you may save a little money sourcing on your own you'll have to deal with vendors all over the world trying to get everything this month that's backordered on Mouser. I sourced the parts myself and I think I'm a few years older from it...
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My problem with that is that I already had about 1/3 of the parts on hand. Plus its against my general policy of doing things the hard way.

I have seen a Synthcube parts kit for TTSH. Very organized. I think it took them longer to pack that than it took me to build it. In the end I had a lifetime supply of tiny ziplock bags.

[added] Because of my own well documented fallibility, I always count and double count part quantities. My recollection about the SC TTSH kit was zero errors, which is remarkable considering how many parts were involved.
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Post by LED-man » Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:30 am

I ordered from Mouser for 300€ , TME.eu 200€, eBay 70€
Plus the synthcube faderkit and IC kit.
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Post by ultravox » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:04 am

I also got the fader kit and IC kit from synthcube which was a wise decision. I should have gotten the full parts kit but I was feeling adventurous. I'm finalizing delivery with a vender in China for the Dagnabbit EG2201B slide switches, so everything in total will be here before the end of the month.

I hate to admit it took me more than 5 hours... :doh: Buying the full parts kit is definitely the best route.

I checked the BOM link this morning and it was updated: "REV1.0.6 CHANGED 1N5817 TO BAT85S ON THE MOTHERBOARD"
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Post by the bad producer » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:38 am

Hi, I've 2 DD's on their way and I've bought the ebay parts as specced (too lazy to look elsewhere and... cheap!).. So, I'll have a few spare:

M2 4MM BLACK PAN HEAD SCREW (lots spare)
M2.5 6MM BLACK PAN HEAD SCREW(lots spare)
M2 FF 5MM STANDOFF (4 sets spare)
M2.5 FF 25MM STANDOFF (3 sets spare)

If anyone in the UK/EU wants a set or anything let me know, they're not here yet, they may be a while :deadbanana:

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