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RK3 and RK4
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metasonix
Okay, they've been added to our website. We have also added owner's manuals for all current products. SUPPORT section, scroll down.

If you must purchase an RK3 or RK4, Big City Music has some in stock right now. Other dealers don't seem to have noticed yet. Isn't that strange.
albiedamned
Excellent! I'll put these on Modular Grid later this afternoon or tonight if someone else doesn't beat me to it.
albiedamned
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/metasonix-rk3-ringer-shaper
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/metasonix-rk4-filter-vco

I copied the images and description text from Metasonix.com. I also got the power specs from there. I put 31mm as the depth for both modules since it says all RK modules are no more than 31mm. I put $300 as the street price for both, although last I checked bigcitymusic.com only had the RK4 listed. I'm assuming the RK3 will be the same price.
sloth713
Well some one has to be that guy so...

What are the hypothetical differences between the RK3 and r-53? Same question for the RK4 and R-54 (minus the vca and harsh switch)? I am sure we will get an audio demo comparison in the next 6 months but I want to hear Eric's thoughts on the differences
metasonix
albiedamned wrote:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/metasonix-rk3-ringer-shaper
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/metasonix-rk4-filter-vco

I copied the images and description text from Metasonix.com. I also got the power specs from there. I put 31mm as the depth for both modules since it says all RK modules are no more than 31mm. I put $300 as the street price for both, although last I checked bigcitymusic.com only had the RK4 listed. I'm assuming the RK3 will be the same price.

All the RKs are the same price. Thanks for putting those on Modulargrid.

(You could note that the R-51, R-53, R-54 are discontinued and the R-55 will be reissued sometime this year with a different front panel.)

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What are the hypothetical differences between the RK3 and r-53? Same question for the RK4 and R-54 (minus the vca and harsh switch)?

None other than the RK3 not having that "Pulser CV" input (it was kind of useless anyway) and the RK4 not having the pentode VCA or "Harsh" switch. They sound exactly like the R versions.
albiedamned
metasonix wrote:
(You could note that the R-51, R-53, R-54 are discontinued and the R-55 will be reissued sometime this year with a different front panel.)


Interesting... So is the R-52 still in production? Any plans for an RK adaptation of it? And will the R-55 front panel be the only change or are there other R-55 changes coming?

I just set R-51, R-53, and R-54mk2 to discontinued on Modular Grid. FYI, anyone can make those edits. It's like Wikipedia. (hides)
albiedamned
FYI, some of the RK3 demo links on metasonix.com are messed up. The Demo 1 and Demo 2 links are merged into one link (which goes to Demo 2). Also the link for Demo 5 doesn't work because it's missing the .mp3 extension.
metasonix
albiedamned wrote:
So is the R-52 still in production?

yes, until it runs out, I think there's about 15 of them left

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Any plans for an RK adaptation of it?

Seriously doubtful, dual pentodes of the types needed were never made. It could be done with two subminiature pentodes but they are becoming very scarce/expensive.

If I had a vast supply of 5840 pentodes, I could explode the sun. Unfortunately companies like Mojave Audio are using the damn things in their condenser mics. So presto, they are scarce because insane hoarders are buying all the old supplies up. Ha ha fuck me.

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And will the R-55 front panel be the only change or are there other R-55 changes coming?

should be the same

Quote:
some of the RK3 demo links on metasonix.com are messed up

fixed, thks.
YellowBlood
Hey Eric, just had a quick question. Can the RK4 module be used as a single "pitched drum" like on the D-2000 or is there plans to release a dedicated pitched drum module in 8HP like the RK1? Thanks!
metasonix
The RK4 circuit is identical to the D-2000 circuits. Yes it can be used as a pitched drum voice.

Two RK1s and three RK4s and a controller or sequencer and you have a D-2000. Wazoo.
YellowBlood
Excellent, Thank you!
metasonix
Whups, a couple dealers have (finally) placed orders. Need to finish and ship. If you want quicker delivery, Big City still has a couple in stock.

Thanks for supporting us and don't shove 750Ts up your bunghole.
Kummer
metasonix wrote:
The RK4 circuit is identical to the D-2000 circuits. Yes it can be used as a pitched drum voice.

Two RK1s and three RK4s and a controller or sequencer and you have a D-2000. Wazoo.


So then the R-54 is the same circuit as a D-2000 drum voice?

To echo a question from above, I am interested in the differences between the R-54 and RK4/R-53 and RK3. Obviously, there is a difference in the number of vacuum tubes... but what does that mean as far as differences in sound generation/processing?
albiedamned
Another question: the RK3 and RK4 have much higher +12V power requirements than the R53 and R54: 400 mA each versus 200 mA for the R53 and 150 mA for the R54. Do the RK modules truly require that much, or is that requirement for the initial power-up surge? If it's true, then do they really need 2-3 times as much for the initial power-up, meaning 800 to 1200 mA?
metasonix
Kummer wrote:
So then the R-54 is the same circuit as a D-2000 drum voice?

yes

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To echo a question from above, I am interested in the differences between the R-54 and RK4/R-53 and RK3. Obviously, there is a difference in the number of vacuum tubes... but what does that mean as far as differences in sound generation/processing?

There's not a big difference in sound quality or effects. The RKs have fewer CV inputs because of space issues.

Quote:
Another question: the RK3 and RK4 have much higher +12V power requirements than the R53 and R54: 400 mA each versus 200 mA for the R53 and 150 mA for the R54. Do the RK modules truly require that much, or is that requirement for the initial power-up surge? If it's true, then do they really need 2-3 times as much for the initial power-up, meaning 800 to 1200 mA?

That's because we are limited by the tubes available. Yes, the RKs need more current, although it is entirely from the +12 line. The old R modules had two tubes, usually with heaters in series, so they used a lot of current from both +12 and -12v.
albiedamned
metasonix wrote:
That's because we are limited by the tubes available. Yes, the RKs need more current, although it is entirely from the +12 line. The old R modules had two tubes, usually with heaters in series, so they used a lot of current from both +12 and -12v.


So do the RK3 and RK4 really need 800 to 1200 mA of +12 for their initial power-up surge?
Yes Powder
albiedamned wrote:
So do the RK3 and RK4 really need 800 to 1200 mA of +12 for their initial power-up surge?


For simplicity's sake, yes.
Since metal has lower resistance when cold than when hot, they will naturally draw more current before they've heated up to operating temperature.
Depending on your PSU and how much you're overdrawing it, this may cause it to shut down and restart repeatedly as the supply tries and repeatedly fails to cope with the cold-surge power, or at worst (so I'm told) it can totally cook the poor thing.
albiedamned
ElectricNoises wrote:
albiedamned wrote:
So do the RK3 and RK4 really need 800 to 1200 mA of +12 for their initial power-up surge?


For simplicity's sake, yes.
Since metal has lower resistance when cold than when hot, they will naturally draw more current before they've heated up to operating temperature.
Depending on your PSU and how much you're overdrawing it, this may cause it to shut down and restart repeatedly as the supply tries and repeatedly fails to cope with the cold-surge power, or at worst (so I'm told) it can totally cook the poor thing.


I would like to hear from the horse's mouth (aka Eric) about what the actual inrush draws of the RK3 and RK4 are. I've also emailed Doepfer to try to understand the capacity of the PSU3 to handle inrush demands, given that it's a linear reuglator fed from a switching supply. I really want to swap out my R53 for an RK3, and maybe my R54 for an RK4 too, but I'm worried that my PSU3 won't handle the inrush even though I'll be well below the overall 2000 mA +12V limit.
corduroyflipflops
A minor thing, but it affects quality of life, things just aint right.....

I miss yellow help
albiedamned
Eric, I'm still hoping you'll answer my question above about how much inrush current the RK3 and RK4 draw on power up.
metasonix
albiedamned wrote:
Eric, I'm still hoping you'll answer my question above about how much inrush current the RK3 and RK4 draw on power up.

It's about 2.5 times the operating current; it varies slightly from tube to tube so we can't make it a "rating". I doubt the Doepfer PSU3 will have a problem running that load.

Just don't be another one of those guys who tries to run our products off a Tiptop uZeus, has problems, then "upgrades"....to a Synthrotek supply. Which isn't any better. I've had TWO of them this week alone. Do I have to keep screaming DO NOT USE THE CHEAPEST POWER SUPPLIES YOU CAN FIND?
albiedamned
metasonix wrote:
It's about 2.5 times the operating current; it varies slightly from tube to tube so we can't make it a "rating". I doubt the Doepfer PSU3 will have a problem running that load.


Actually the PSU3 will have problems. I got a reply from Doepfer, from Dieter Doepfer himself. Here's what he wrote:

Quote:
as the A-100PSU3 is made of a switching supply (followed by linear
regulation) it's not possible to obtain inrush currents beyond the specs of
the power supply. We know this as there are e.g. problems with the new
digital Roland modules which consume high inrush currents during power on.
The A-100PSU3 should be more than sufficient to drive these modules based on
the current specifications. But the PSU3 does not turn on when more than 3
Roland modules are connected. These should take only about 3*450mA = 1350mA.
But they obviously consume more than these currents during power on. On has
to connect one module after the other to the PSU3. Then it does work but
that's not a practibal solution.
I'd recommend to keep the A-100PSU2.


So the PSU3 can't handle inrush draws that push it beyond it's total rating of 2000 mA +12V and 1200 mA -12V. I know you said 2.5x is not an exact thing, but let's just use it for an example. An RK3 and an RK4, at 400 mA +12V each, would combine to require all 2000 mA of +12V for their inrush current draw. You wouldn't be able to connect a single additional module to the PSU3.

Dieter says to keep the PSU2, which is linear. But it's total capacity is only 1200 mA of +12V. So it's a trade-off: higher total capacity with no ability to handle inrush (PSU3), or lower total capacity with ability to handle inrush (PSU2).

I know what the correct answer to the problem is: RKP.
metasonix
Tubes are EVIL, tubes are awful, they hate you and your mother, they want to chop your nuts off and eat them, etc.....
FatRocky
demos?

OK I FOUND SOME DEMOS HERE:

http://www.analoguehaven.com/metasonix/rk3/

http://www.analoguehaven.com/metasonix/rk4/
metasonix
BCM demo of RK4

https://twitter.com/BigCityMusic/status/826940932943540224
ritchiedrums
SlayerBadger! SlayerBadger! SlayerBadger! The Agonizer!
Kujo
I'll be in Murica next month and plan on grabbing one RK4 and one RK2 SlayerBadger! , I hope my SILTA PSU's are up to the task.
Kujo
fukit ordered the RK4 from escape from noise.
Kujo
I'm running my 9U system on 3x Silta (http://frap.tools/portfolio/silta/#1483890593510-9600f0d3-6947) 1 for each row of 84HP .

The RK4 was used on the same row as other modules drawing about 266mA on +12 and about 145mA @ -12vin total so the RK4 had about 950mA spare for itself @ +12 . the power up happened with no issue whatsoever everything got fired up nicely!
metasonix
Review of RK4 for Polish magazine, you tell me what it says.....

Yes Powder
Because I was bored, I ran it through Google Translate.

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With the Californian modulators of Metasonix there is no more aggressive and unreliable sound. In the end this is the lamp of the top shelf. However, the tone of the sound is not limited to the euro. Before you spend a fat hick on RK4, take note that this mastiff needs a big shack. On a good day RK4 will get 450mA of current, and at system startup, for a few seconds it requires at least double the supply of this demand. This means that you have to book for about 1A of electricity in your housing. But the game is worth the candle. This is because there is an oscillator and cone filter in one. When no signal is connected to the ln socket. RK4 behaves like an oscillator. Tuning knob is responsible for the amount of sound generated, and Resonance changes the shape of the pure sinusoid waveform to more angular waves, rich in harmonic. When we connect the signal to the socket, the module converts to a BP filter. In this case, Tuning controls the filter shedding, and Resonance decides how shaky, kicking and rampant venom will be RK4. It is unbelievable how many shades of distortion and aggression can be squeezed out of such seemingly simple construction. Especially if you use the CV socket for modulation, it freed up the frequency. Here's an important note - if you want to call RK4 as a typical oscillator, you'll have to use a Hz / V (Harvestman English Tear) module to control it. As is the case with the tube modules, the key to success is the the minimal flare movement. Even minor manipulations lead to drastic changes in the sound. And this lamp is proudly proud of all the modules.
metasonix
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Before you spend a fat hick on RK4, take note that this mastiff needs a big shack.

Thasright. No pussies.
FatRocky
metasonix wrote:
Review of RK4 for Polish magazine, you tell me what it says.....




here´s the video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq_2r_rKY3E
metasonix
And here's the English version:
evs
albiedamned wrote:
metasonix wrote:
It's about 2.5 times the operating current; it varies slightly from tube to tube so we can't make it a "rating". I doubt the Doepfer PSU3 will have a problem running that load.


Actually the PSU3 will have problems. I got a reply from Doepfer, from Dieter Doepfer himself. Here's what he wrote:

Quote:
as the A-100PSU3 is made of a switching supply (followed by linear
regulation) it's not possible to obtain inrush currents beyond the specs of
the power supply. We know this as there are e.g. problems with the new
digital Roland modules which consume high inrush currents during power on.
The A-100PSU3 should be more than sufficient to drive these modules based on
the current specifications. But the PSU3 does not turn on when more than 3
Roland modules are connected. These should take only about 3*450mA = 1350mA.
But they obviously consume more than these currents during power on. On has
to connect one module after the other to the PSU3. Then it does work but
that's not a practibal solution.
I'd recommend to keep the A-100PSU2.


So the PSU3 can't handle inrush draws that push it beyond it's total rating of 2000 mA +12V and 1200 mA -12V. I know you said 2.5x is not an exact thing, but let's just use it for an example. An RK3 and an RK4, at 400 mA +12V each, would combine to require all 2000 mA of +12V for their inrush current draw. You wouldn't be able to connect a single additional module to the PSU3.

Dieter says to keep the PSU2, which is linear. But it's total capacity is only 1200 mA of +12V. So it's a trade-off: higher total capacity with no ability to handle inrush (PSU3), or lower total capacity with ability to handle inrush (PSU2).

I know what the correct answer to the problem is: RKP.


anyone knows which other power can handle inrush draws?

i have a psu3, and a row power 40.. guess the latter can not do it either. or anyone tried it?

edit: just read on the page that you should not use 4ms power for tube modules.. allright, shit.
i have all the power i need until now. the 4ms is in my portable case, so i don´t want to have something big in there.
maybe i need to keep my doepfer diy power...
nearly ghost
metasonix wrote:
The RK4 circuit is identical to the D-2000 circuits. Yes it can be used as a pitched drum voice.

Two RK1s and three RK4s and a controller or sequencer and you have a D-2000. Wazoo.


So do you just hit the audio in with a trigger or gate for percussive sounds like the D machines?
Yes Powder
nearly ghost wrote:
So do you just hit the audio in with a trigger or gate for percussive sounds like the D machines?

Yep, pretty much. Shorter triggers tend to be better, otherwise you'll get a sort of double-hit effect— unless you're going for that.
defenestration
spent some focused and directed time with my new RK4 instead of just smashing it around and going crazy hyper

[bandcamp width=100% height=42 track=41591023 size=small bgcol=ffffff linkcol=0687f5]

patch notes:

mostly exponential Maths envelope with self-feedback to RK4 pitch CV, RK4 out to Optomix, Optomix out to Double Andore in. DA env out to optomix CV, DA set to exponential response
metasonix
RK3 and other processing by Ethan. "All sounds are produced from a WMD/SSF Spectrum, Qu-Bit EON, or A-196 PLL through the RK3, before entering an A-101-2v LPG and Pico DSP. The signal output was ran through a Grace M103 PreAmp/Compressor before recording. No post-production editing was done to this recording."

https://soundcloud.com/delepathy/metasonix-rk3-ringershaper-demo-1
nearly ghost
Yes Powder wrote:
nearly ghost wrote:
So do you just hit the audio in with a trigger or gate for percussive sounds like the D machines?

Yep, pretty much. Shorter triggers tend to be better, otherwise you'll get a sort of double-hit effect— unless you're going for that.


That's great to hear thanks.
lisa
Bought a RK3 a week ago. It is.. lovely! Everything I ever wanted but never really got from my A-196. screaming goo yo
Yes Powder
lisa wrote:
Bought a RK3 a week ago. It is.. lovely! Everything I ever wanted but never really got from my A-196. screaming goo yo

thumbs up Hell yeah! The R53 is a big reason why I got into Euro, and it's indeed an incredibly powerful tool once you learn its intricacies.
I really want to get an RK3 at some point— partially becuause I want to see if it's as different from the R53 as people say, and partially because I could use another Pulser/Ringer circuit in my rack.
gringostar
lisa wrote:
Bought a RK3 a week ago. It is.. lovely! Everything I ever wanted but never really got from my A-196. screaming goo yo


The TM-1/R53/RK3 family of circuits are fucking magical and will say it's the most inspired design Eric has ever done.

I would also highly recommend the RK6, such an amazing and unique filter that has just as many intricacies as the RK3.
snakejaw
I see a lot of praise for the R-53/RK3.

Does anyone have any REALLY good/interesting/magical audio examples of the R-53 or RK3 that they can share? I mean really remarkable. I have an R-53 and, sadly, I've never been able to get anything beyond a few odd squelches at certain settings. I drink the yellow Kool Aid and really like Metasonix. But I feel like the R-53 is not very usable or remarkable.
lisa
snakejaw, that is some bar to clear. Nothing I do is ”REALLY good/interesting/magical”. MY ASS IS BLEEDING But I think that I can play you a recording where the RK3 makes a difference, if that’s of interest?
sloth713
I would definitely be interest hearing what you can do with the RK3 lisa, whether it be "nice" or metasonixy
Yes Powder
snakejaw wrote:
Does anyone have any REALLY good/interesting/magical audio examples of the R-53 or RK3 that they can share? I mean really remarkable. I have an R-53 and, sadly, I've never been able to get anything beyond a few odd squelches at certain settings..

One person's squelch and squonk might be another person's "amazing". I have a ton of examples in various songs sitting on my hard drive right now that I haven't uploaded to my Soundcloud or Bandcamp yet because the songs still don't have lyrics.
In the meantime, there are a few songs on my Soundcloud that use it. Dunno if I'd call them "remarkable" but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yellow Throated Krell uses it as a ring-mod for two random pitches gated by two vactrol LPGs, going into the main input and carrier inputs respectively. The pulser is tuned just to the highest point where any effect happens, giving a sort of (to my ears) struck-glass attack to the resultant output.
Inertia uses it at the end for a bit where I'm running my S2000 into it with the pulser engaged. Probably not the sound you're looking for, but I thought it came out really aggressive and buzzy.
Skyglow uses it to help generate the pseudochords/powerchords for the pad, which was run through an R52 turned heavily towards the bass-only side of the response knob, hence the lack of higher harmonics.
How It Happens uses it once again to generate pseudo-powerchords from a single input frequency. The really nasty powerchord sound that dominates the song is actually just an R55 running into an R53, and then filtered by an R52 and an R57 to gate it all.
Prayer for a Cloudy Day uses it as a percussion mixer. I was actually using all three inputs on the R53 for this one. Kick is going into the Audio In, closed hihat sounds to the Pulser in and Open hihat sounds to the Carrier In. I've gotten a really good snare sound using a variation on this method, but I couldn't get it here because this whole song is one patch and I was running out of modules.

Again, I have more examples on my hard drive at home. I'll try and upload some raw tracks when I get home, if I think of it.
REcDeso12oi
No examples yet, but I got an RK3 a week or two ago and its my new favorite module. I use it all the time, especially love the distortion characteristics of it. I usually use the PLL for added harmonic content pre filter or gate.. but I will say so far even if just for the distortion characteristics its worth the price of admission. But like everyone knows, this is totally subjective. But just wanted to chime in and say I'm finding tons of uses for it and most of them DO blow my mind.
lisa
sloth713 wrote:
I would definitely be interest hearing what you can do with the RK3 lisa, whether it be "nice" or metasonixy

Thanks! Perhaps I should record a patch with the RK3 and then again when bypassing it, for comparison.
Yes Powder
Back with a couple more demos, showing its use as a waveshaper. These are both taken from unfinished songs on my hard drive. The first one is just the track soloed, and the second one also includes another bass part and percussion. No reason why; just felt like doing it that way.

Triangle Wave through VCA into R53
This is a sample from a track of a song that's mostly finished. The patch is very simple: just a triangle wave into a VCA with a slow decay, being fed into the R53 audio input. The pulser is tuned to a point just before the high end of self-oscillation, and I think the Ringmod Carrier Input Level knob is at about 4:30. I would really recommend looking at this through a scope if you can, to get a better idea of what it's doing.

R55>RK6>R53 (plus other tracks)
This example uses the pulser tuned to the low range before self-oscillation, once again using the Ringmod Carrier Input Level knob to tune in the spikiness. Instead of gating the oscillator with a VCA, this time it's being gated by an RK3 set to just a little bit of resonance. Some nice, septic wubby sounds here.


I've always wondered why the manuals make no mention of the fact that the Carrier Input knobs affect the pulser quality even when nothing is plugged into the Carrier In. To me it's a really important feature of controlling the module, and I wonder how many people simply don't know that it does something like that. I've also wondered what exactly it's doing, since so far I haven't been able to replicate it through patching.
electricanada
Yes Powder wrote:
Back with a couple more demos, showing its use as a waveshaper. These are both taken from unfinished songs on my hard drive. The first one is just the track soloed, and the second one also includes another bass part and percussion. No reason why; just felt like doing it that way.

Triangle Wave through VCA into R53
This is a sample from a track of a song that's mostly finished. The patch is very simple: just a triangle wave into a VCA with a slow decay, being fed into the R53 audio input. The pulser is tuned to a point just before the high end of self-oscillation, and I think the Ringmod Carrier Input Level knob is at about 4:30. I would really recommend looking at this through a scope if you can, to get a better idea of what it's doing.

R55>RK6>R53 (plus other tracks)
This example uses the pulser tuned to the low range before self-oscillation, once again using the Ringmod Carrier Input Level knob to tune in the spikiness. Instead of gating the oscillator with a VCA, this time it's being gated by an RK3 set to just a little bit of resonance. Some nice, septic wubby sounds here.


I've always wondered why the manuals make no mention of the fact that the Carrier Input knobs affect the pulser quality even when nothing is plugged into the Carrier In. To me it's a really important feature of controlling the module, and I wonder how many people simply don't know that it does something like that. I've also wondered what exactly it's doing, since so far I haven't been able to replicate it through patching.


First link is broken.
Yes Powder
Working for me seriously, i just don't get it
lisa
I checked my disc for recordings since I got the RK3 and there's only really one where the RK3 is prominent:

https://we.tl/t-3pwkuvQJVC

A sequence from the Make Noise 0-coast was fed into the RK3 for grit and then passed through the R56 for heavy reverb. After a while I pushed forth the dry signal and added a beat.

Note that it's an untreated patch recording so it doesn't sound great but it gives a sense of the grit that RK3 can add.

Yes Powder wrote:
Working for me seriously, i just don't get it

Doesn't work for me. It says that there is no such track.

Yes Powder wrote:
Triangle Wave through VCA into R53

Very nice! Sounds both nice and cool.
Yes Powder
electricanada wrote:
First link is broken.

Try it now

lisa wrote:
https://we.tl/t-3pwkuvQJVC

A sequence from the Make Noise 0-coast was fed into the RK3 for grit and then passed through the R56 for heavy reverb. After a while I pushed forth the dry signal and added a beat.

Cool stuff thumbs up Adds some nice grit
EPTC
Yes Powder wrote:
Back with a couple more demos


Rad sounds man!

Mr. Green
electricanada
[quote="Yes Powder"]
electricanada wrote:
First link is broken.

Try it now

Still not found.
Yes Powder
electricanada wrote:
Still not found.

Try it one more time. It's working for me on my work computer now. If it breaks again, I give up.
electricanada
Worked just now—my life is complete!
lisa
https://we.tl/t-fZt1ab8l90

Another very much unfinished track. First you hear a rather clean sawtooth arpeggio through the R56. Then the RK3 adds a different tone to it (making the whole patch rather dissonant when the bassline comes in.. but what the hey).
metasonix
lisa wrote:
https://we.tl/t-fZt1ab8l90

you do great work and should be more famous....
lisa
metasonix wrote:
lisa wrote:
https://we.tl/t-fZt1ab8l90

you do great work and should be more famous....

Thanks! You are way too kind but I’ll takes it as I gets it. It's peanut butter jelly time!

Very amusing to me that I’ve shunned Metasonix gear for many years (long before I got into eurorack) and it turns out that I was wrong in my assumptions all along. It has loads of (deraanged) personality but can sound cordial too. That range makes it really interesting and pleasing to work with.
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