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stereo mixer module comparison

Post by mdoudoroff » Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:17 pm

As I’m somewhat preoccupied with this topic and new such modules are coming fast and furious, I have begun a comparison chart that I will endeavor to keep up-to-date.

http://doudoroff.com/mixers/

If I can make this more useful, let me know. Corrections and augmentations cheerfully entertained.

UPDATES:
2020-05-18 added ACL Pan Mix
2020-02-17 added Doepfer A-135-3
2020-02-17 added SynEssentials SE2026
2020-02-16 added Modulaire Maritime Victor Alpha
2019-11-20 added Arcaico Caronte MS-4
2019-11-04 added Catoff Mix
2019-11-03 added Paratek РИТМИКС
2019-09-26 added Alyseum Q-Mix
2019-09-26 added L-1 Discrete VC Stereo Mixer, other updates
2019-09-26 removed Cwejman MX-4AS and Escalation Dominance
2019-09-26 added Toppobrillo Stereomix 2
2019-09-22 added Happy Nerding 2xSAM
2019-08-06 added ph Mixer++
2019-06-28 added new column about individual outs (for multitracking), other updates
2019-05-08 added OIII Quad Mixer
2019-04-30 added Make Noise X-Pan and the AGO Summingfacility; varoius other updates
2019-03-27 added Befaco STMIX
2019-02-10 added JPSynth Stereo Mixer
2019-01-20 added Tesseract Tex Mix
2018-11-16 added Takaab Nearness and stubbed out Worng Sound Stage
2018-10-14 added ST-Modular SUM
2018-09-07 Added SSI M-4 and Happy Nerding 3X
2018-05-02 Added Happy Nerding PanMix Jr.
2018-05-01 Added Roland 531, updates
2018-03-15 Added Hyrlo, minor updates
2018-02-07 Stubbed out 4ms Listen modules
2017-12-21 Added Intellijel Mixup
2017-11-13 Stubbed out Random*Source Stereo Mixer
2017-08-14 Doepfer shipping update
2017-07-04 Stubbed out the Befaco HEXA
2017-06-29 XAOC Praga shipping update
2017-06-05 Rebel Technologies Mix 02, Eric Stereo Mixer V2
2017-06-01 ADDAC Stereo Summing Mixer
2017-05-02 GRP Stereo Out Module
2017-04-13 Doepfer A-138s
2017-04-06 Qu-bit Mixology update
2017-02-21 L-1 2 Channel Mixer & Unity Stereo Mixer
2017-02-01 Rebel Technologies Mix 01
2017-01-31 Cwejman MX-4AS
2017-01-30 Doepfer A-135
2017-01-19 Qu-bit Mixology update
2017-01-17 Pittsburgh Lifeforms System Interface
2016-09-19 Ladik M-175 (and related)
2016-09-15 WMD & Erica updates
2016-08-21 Toppobrillo & Frap Tools update
2016-07-06 Topporillo update
2016-07-05 Endorphin.es Cockpit
2016-06-29 Blue Lantern Stereo Sir Mix Alot + new related modules
2016-06-01 Additonal PanMix details
2016-05-19 Added Happy Nerding PanMix & Hinton references
2016-05-18 Added Arrel ER-100
2016-03-24 Added initial info on Doepfer A-138p/o
2016-03-23 Added initial info on Frap CGM
2016-03-15 Added headphone column; updated data on Koma mixer
2016-02-01 Updated WMD photo
2016-01-27 Updated Toppobrillo info, new photos
2016-01-26 More additions and corrections
2016-01-25 Added more placeholder photos, missing modules, errata
2016-01-24 Errata and many additions from Muffwiggler members
2016-01-23 Rough draft
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Post by Bogus » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:13 pm

I used to use an Azimuth as a master bus. I've now got a couple Azimuth IIs and a sputnik mixer but even by itself that module is really useful.
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Post by mha » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:14 pm

Don't have a Dubmix, but to my understanding it only has 1 AUX send on the main module, and the expander will give you just 2 more.
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Post by exper » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:20 pm

Also the Dubmix has a stereo aux inout via the mini expander.
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Post by mdoudoroff » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:09 pm

mha wrote:Don't have a Dubmix, but to my understanding it only has 1 AUX send on the main module, and the expander will give you just 2 more.
Ah, so all those AUX jacks and knobs aren’t sends but an independent mix (with cv) for the single AUX send? (There doesn’t seem to be a manual available for this module on the Intellijel site; I wonder why?)

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Post by kingspill » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:48 pm

Circuit Abbey Unify + Expander(s)

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Post by ludu357 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:17 pm

What about the MakeNoise RxMx?
It can mix, it can pan, it can..radiate!

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Post by gliftor » Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:23 pm

At the low end where I'm looking, there's the synthrotek/MST stereo output mixer...

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Post by Auxar » Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:59 pm

The 6 channel Sputnik seems discontinued.
But a new Sputnik quadrophonic (modular modular mixer :hihi: ) seems to be underway.

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/sputnik-m ... onic-mixer

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/sputnik-m ... qm-channel

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Post by MATSmile » Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:37 am

ludu357 wrote:What about the MakeNoise RxMx?
It can mix, it can pan, it can..radiate!
It's not well suited for end chain mixing :despair:

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Post by Futuresound » Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:35 am

If I'm correctly interpreting the pictures I've seen, the new Toppobrillo mixer actually only has one send, but each of the 4 channels has independent send amount.

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Post by Farfield » Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:52 am

This is a great overview, I've been comparing mixers myself lately, this helps a lot - thanks mdoudoroff!

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Post by Junk Rhythm » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:18 am

Futuresound wrote:If I'm correctly interpreting the pictures I've seen, the new Toppobrillo mixer actually only has one send, but each of the 4 channels has independent send amount.
It has one Aux Send Out for each channel with control for amount as well as a CV input that controls it per channel. In addition to this, you also have a Cue Mix Out that is activated when a module channel is muted which gives another way of sending audio out of the mixer to effects if needed.

For the chart if it's being updated, it's 24HP.
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Re: stereo mixer module comparison

Post by cthonist » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:20 am

mdoudoroff wrote:As I’m somewhat preoccupied with this topic and new such modules are coming fast and furious, I have begun a comparison chart that I will endeavor to keep up-to-date.

http://doudoroff.com/mixers/

If I can make this more useful, let me know. Corrections and augmentations cheerfully entertained.
You list the MIIIIX as having 0 Solo/Mutes but each channel has buttons for both. Thanks for compiling this!

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Post by Dogma » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:36 am

L1 Stereo Mixer is the best bang for buck if you diy - its essentially a VCA-4MX[/list]
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Post by mha » Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:56 am

mdoudoroff wrote:
mha wrote:Don't have a Dubmix, but to my understanding it only has 1 AUX send on the main module, and the expander will give you just 2 more.
Ah, so all those AUX jacks and knobs aren’t sends but an independent mix (with cv) for the single AUX send? (There doesn’t seem to be a manual available for this module on the Intellijel site; I wonder why?)
The AUX A1 pot determines the amount of mixer channel 1 going to the AUX A output.
The AUX A2 pot determines the amount of mixer channel 2 going to the AUX A output.
And so on...

The AUX input jacks are for CV control of the send amount of each channel.

The AUX expander gives you AUX B and AUX C.
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Post by mdoudoroff » Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:32 am

Thank you all for your corrections and additions. I’ve updated the comparison accordingly and will continue to address any shortcomings.

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Post by Neekau » Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:58 am

I think VCA Matrix and ADDAC802 would also be legitimate to appear in that comparison chart :tu:

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Post by chrisso » Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:04 am

Although a lot more basic, the Erica Black Output module has three channels of mixing, three inputs, cv panning and stereo output.
I'm using it to combine mono and stereo sounds into one stereo patch.
http://www.ericasynths.lv/en/shop/euror ... odule.html

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Post by eyeiaye » Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:13 am

Do you not need an output with the VCA Matrix?

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Post by mha » Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:42 am

mdoudoroff wrote:Thank you all for your corrections and additions. I’ve updated the comparison accordingly and will continue to address any shortcomings.
Looks good, but a small comment about how you display the send count:

In regular 'mixer speak' the number of sends would be the AUX bus count, and not the number of channels being able to feed into the bus, if that makes sense. E.g. you write that the Dubmix has four sends, but it really only has one.
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Post by Dcramer » Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:02 am

mha wrote:
mdoudoroff wrote:Thank you all for your corrections and additions. I’ve updated the comparison accordingly and will continue to address any shortcomings.
Looks good, but a small comment about how you display the send count:

In regular 'mixer speak' the number of sends would be the AUX bus count, and not the number of channels being able to feed into the bus, if that makes sense. E.g. you write that the Dubmix has four sends, but it really only has one.
Yes, correct. And the Dubmix Aux expander gives you more send busses from the same 4 channels (two more I think? For a total of 3). In mixer speak, it's a given that every channel has sends for the effects or monitor busses :tu:

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Post by mdoudoroff » Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:35 am

Dcramer & mha,

Given that I’m not fluent in “mixer speak”, can I impose on you to suggest precise wording changes that will nail it?

Thanks,
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Post by slumberjack » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:53 pm

there is no such stereo mixer that fits my needs for my performance rack. 2x bastl ABC into (in stereo mode) into bubblesound 6x1/3x2 (i got one stereo source already) is my current goal to achieve a 7 input stereo mixer in 15hp. gonna ad ladik's headphone preamp and buff mults for patching a channel or an abc before leaving to the speakers.
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