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Eurorack Serge TKB

Post by search64 » Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:53 am

So apparently, there's a euro version of the Serge TKB coming out soon from a company called ARC according to Serge Tcherepnin himself:
Serge wrote: [...] there's a TKB in euro format coming soon thanks to ARC (Analogue Research Co), now in euro format with PC board mounted pots (a great improvement !) -
From this thread: https://muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=152155

I couldn't find anything else about it, but :banana:

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Post by search64 » Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:26 am

Would've thought more people would have been excited by this, or is it old news?

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Post by Dogma » Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:57 am

No im exited allright - i cant seem to find any info so would you be able to post some?
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Post by insula » Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:07 am

Ramdom source licence Serge schematic and adapt to euro format:

http://randomsource.net/serge_euro

I thinking to buy some pcbs, but a TKB is a no brainer... i want it :banana:

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Post by rpc » Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:09 am

Thanks for the heads-up. I'm interested to see what price point this comes in at.

I'm currently swaying towards the new 4U Serge by Random*Source and the TKB by The Human Comparator. This new TKB and the R*S Euro Serge is intriguing in that it will integrate well with other euro easily, but I think I prefer the original Serge 4U format.

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Post by mritenburg » Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:50 am

I'm curious where this leaves the planned TipTop euro serge modules?
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Post by intuitionnyc » Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:01 am

VERY COOL!!! :mrgreen:

I remember seeing some Tip Top / Serge modules at NAMM or something.

I have limited experience with Serge, but I hear it is absolutely incredible.

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Post by deltaphoenix » Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:05 am

Serge is awesome! I am sure it will be fun in Euro with a bunch of stackables.

I do have some banana gear and have enjoyed Serge a lot in that format but this is all good news for the Euro world.

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Post by exper » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:26 pm

Very, very excited.
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Post by Dogma » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:34 pm

insula wrote:Ramdom source licence Serge schematic and adapt to euro format:

http://randomsource.net/serge_euro

I thinking to buy some pcbs, but a TKB is a no brainer... i want it :banana:
But where are specifically getting the TKB info from R*S? i cant fnd mention anywhere?
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Post by x2mirko » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:43 pm

Dogma wrote:
insula wrote:Ramdom source licence Serge schematic and adapt to euro format:

http://randomsource.net/serge_euro

I thinking to buy some pcbs, but a TKB is a no brainer... i want it :banana:
But where are specifically getting the TKB info from R*S? i cant fnd mention anywhere?
Either insula threw that in here because it's semi-related to a thread about serge in eurorack or he was just overly excited and hasn't read the OP very carefully. The quote in the OP specifically mentions a company with a different name (ARC).

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Post by lud » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:53 pm

Would love to hear more about this

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Post by Vsyevolod » Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:03 pm

There have been no official announcements yet. Just an an offhand remark by Serge himself. I guess that means we'll all have to be patient for a bit.

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Post by exper » Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:42 pm

donttouchmyrice wrote:Elby Designs are on it.
http://www.elby-designs.com/contents/en ... ge_03.html
Yikes, I hope thats not how the ARC one is rendered. It could be done in 1 3u panel if you use mini pots and maybe even drop one of the 4 rows. But the elby version seems cumbersome, having to pair it with the programmer and expander, both of which end up being wider than the touch panel.
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Post by Summa » Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:45 pm

donttouchmyrice wrote:Elby Designs are on it.
http://www.elby-designs.com/contents/en ... ge_03.html
not really a TKB, right? Anyways, I could manage with what I got for now (PP's and FSR's) but a TKB has always been of interest to me and since I'm a local of The Human Comparator I think I'll go that route some time soon or the sputnik keyboard whenever the bugs are straightened out. But more competition is always welcome in my book.

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Post by ARC » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:29 pm

Hi, this is ARC. Since Serge already posted about it, I suppose I can confirm that we are producing a Touch Activated Keyboard Sequencer in Eurorack format. I have no idea about any other manufacturers, my contact has been solely with Serge Tcherepnin.

Here is an image of the most recent prototype, wit the pcb mount pots he mentioned:

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The panel will have color anodized graphics (well just red, blue, black) and the touch pad PCB resembles the original but has been compacted slightly to about 18mm width pad per step (original is about 21mm width). I will share images of those when the prototype is finalized. Keep in mind this is still in a prototype form, but as it stands the pulse outs are available on the top row of jacks above each corresponding step and the other in/out jacks have been slid to the right hand side and rotated from one horizontal row to two vertical (compared to the original). Panel width for prototype is 70hp.

We still have some work to do, so I hadn't announced it yet, but I am very thrilled that Serge is excited enough to share the info! I don't use forums very often, but will certainly update here when the module is ready to announce and ship. We will most likely be shipping a few other modules first that are totally good to go (an artificial neural network and a novel noise module based on USSR era Russian components) so when the TKB is ready it will hopefully not be the first time people are hearing about ARC. Thanks!

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Post by EarlJemmings » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:29 pm

Looks great!
Looking forward to how it turns out.
Also very intrigued by the other modules- Artificial neural network you say? Yes please.

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Post by ryangaston » Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:27 pm

Whoa!! This is fantastic news. I've been hoping that a TKB or 217-style keyboard would crop up eventually...I wouldn't ever get rid of my Pressure Points because of the polyphonic pressure outs, but the Serge format TKB is just a pleasure to play. So glad to see all of the recent Eurorack Serge clones, but this one takes the cake, for sure! :goo:
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Post by onthelees » Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:01 am

Here's hoping it will be slightly cheaper than existing versions..:eek:

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Post by synthysynth » Sat Jan 09, 2016 2:53 am

onthelees wrote:Here's hoping it will be slightly cheaper than existing versions..:eek:
Probably will be. Im really happy with how cheap the random source modules have been if you can even slightly solder. They really are faithful clones but some modules/panels in serge will never be accurately cloned due to obsolete parts that only certain manufactures have access to. Still curious about a bannana system and a full panel/instrument but all of this euro serge news makes me really happy.

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Post by lud » Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:06 am

Great news ARC, TKB sounds and looks very promising. Your other projects sound interesting too

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Post by search64 » Sat Jan 09, 2016 6:54 am

ARC wrote:Hi, this is ARC. Since Serge already posted about it, I suppose I can confirm that we are producing a Touch Activated Keyboard Sequencer in Eurorack format. I have no idea about any other manufacturers, my contact has been solely with Serge Tcherepnin.

Here is an image of the most recent prototype, wit the pcb mount pots he mentioned:

Image

The panel will have color anodized graphics (well just red, blue, black) and the touch pad PCB resembles the original but has been compacted slightly to about 18mm width pad per step (original is about 21mm width). I will share images of those when the prototype is finalized. Keep in mind this is still in a prototype form, but as it stands the pulse outs are available on the top row of jacks above each corresponding step and the other in/out jacks have been slid to the right hand side and rotated from one horizontal row to two vertical (compared to the original). Panel width for prototype is 70hp.

We still have some work to do, so I hadn't announced it yet, but I am very thrilled that Serge is excited enough to share the info! I don't use forums very often, but will certainly update here when the module is ready to announce and ship. We will most likely be shipping a few other modules first that are totally good to go (an artificial neural network and a novel noise module based on USSR era Russian components) so when the TKB is ready it will hopefully not be the first time people are hearing about ARC. Thanks!
Cool! Looking forward to more info and pricing.

I'm assuming this won't be DIY, right? I understand the plastic shaft pots, but would really love the option of using the Serge-style Davies knobs (to go with my Random Source lineup).

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Post by insula » Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:20 am

:woah: :woah: :woah:

:love: :love: :love:

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Post by exper » Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:36 am

ARC wrote:Hi, this is ARC. Since Serge already posted about it, I suppose I can confirm that we are producing a Touch Activated Keyboard Sequencer in Eurorack format. I have no idea about any other manufacturers, my contact has been solely with Serge Tcherepnin.

Here is an image of the most recent prototype, wit the pcb mount pots he mentioned:

Image

The panel will have color anodized graphics (well just red, blue, black) and the touch pad PCB resembles the original but has been compacted slightly to about 18mm width pad per step (original is about 21mm width). I will share images of those when the prototype is finalized. Keep in mind this is still in a prototype form, but as it stands the pulse outs are available on the top row of jacks above each corresponding step and the other in/out jacks have been slid to the right hand side and rotated from one horizontal row to two vertical (compared to the original). Panel width for prototype is 70hp.

We still have some work to do, so I hadn't announced it yet, but I am very thrilled that Serge is excited enough to share the info! I don't use forums very often, but will certainly update here when the module is ready to announce and ship. We will most likely be shipping a few other modules first that are totally good to go (an artificial neural network and a novel noise module based on USSR era Russian components) so when the TKB is ready it will hopefully not be the first time people are hearing about ARC. Thanks!
Now that's what a euro TKB should look like. Very interested in price.
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