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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by suthnear » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:17 am

Part 2:


It doesn't look like the rack ears are removable, which is a shame. But hopefully that's because it's still a prototype.

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by Divinital » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:28 am

BARF 2600

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by pelican » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:36 am

Doesn’t sound very good tbh
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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by trentpmcd » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:39 am

suthnear wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:17 am
Part 2:


It doesn't look like the rack ears are removable, which is a shame. But hopefully that's because it's still a prototype.
Looks like I was wrong about a few things - what I get for posting 5 minutes before the video comes out ;)

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by kons » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:49 am

I like the form factor... looks like a solid metal case too... same quality level as the 340... AMsynths lends a level of credibility to the 'actual' sound quality.
Is it a real spring verb?
Interesting to see what the actual price will turn out to be... could be anything from 500 to 1500?

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by blw » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:53 am

This is one of their best panels, I think. Excepting the kludgy 1/4" jacks, but its a prototpye. I've never understand anyone's love of lighted sliders--they seem quite cheap to the touch to me--but every pot on every one of the Behringer synths has been a disappointment to me, so this will be no better or worse. I think the omission of speakers was smart. Makes some sense on a full version, but mini speakers pushing air for analog synths makes me sad. What are they, 7U? I like the rack ears, too. DIY cabinet for vintage vibes, or rack it up. Sucks a little if you are a desktop guy, but someone will make side panels for it. The sound doesn't need to be spot on for this to be cool. The interface makes it inviting. Seems like a nice product.

This was my shot at being positive so I don't feel bad for ridiculing their Moog and Roland modules. :hihi: Still not cancelling my Korg preorder.

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by hamildad » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:59 am

No problems with the sound, although whether it sounds good, or like a 2600 will be forever debated...

wondering why they dont put all waveforms on all 3 oscs, rather than beef up OSC3 but not 1?

No analogue reverb is part of the sound though, and that's where I think it fails a bit in copying the original.
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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by nectarios » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:06 am

It sounds like an ARP...Never had an ARP2600 but the sound reminds me a lot of the Odyssey when the 4072 is switched in.
I also like the 4012 VCF, although it does not sound like a Minimoog (good), but it sounds like its own thing.

Killer panel...seriously, one of the best looking synths this year for my tastes.
The sound is big and "vintage-y", reverb sounds digital and is also out of phase which I think is the same on the Karp2600 as well.
VCO drift sounds rather nice, bottom end from my HR824s filled the room...so a modern analog mono with the functionality of the ARP2600 that has the character. If this is around 600€, I am getting one.

They've gone from cheap knock offs to some very promising pieces of gear. If the build quality on this is anything like the Klark Teknik stuff, this is a home run.

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by TheDegenerateElite » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:36 am

It seems weird that Keeble gets involved to increase the quantity of his own designs that he can manufacture at once, only to develop a 2600 that makes his modules less desirable. Maybe he and Behringer are planning 2500 modules instead?

The form factor kind of sucks. You can really rack mount it because of all the jacks on the top back, so it's one of these open frames that hog lots of desk space. Some one will come up with custom stands I bet.

Shame too about the sliders, as I've always found the lighted ones a bit sharp edged for comfort.

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by huffnPuff » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:54 am

Will this fit in a 19" rack? Looks like 10U or so?

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by Red Electric Rainbow » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:14 am

always wanted a 2600
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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by nectarios » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:14 am

huffnPuff wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:54 am
Will this fit in a 19" rack? Looks like 10U or so?
It looks like it fits in a 19" rack in the video.
Red Electric Rainbow wrote:
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always wanted a 2600

Me too.

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by PatrickW » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:19 am

Sounds great, looks fantastic !

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by logicgate » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:33 am

I agree, it looks and sounds beautiful.

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by Flounderguts » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:38 am

Looks like the case is tapered for desktop use.

I really like this one. Nice to see that you can dim the LEDs. The jacks looked like minis to me. Say what you will about Behringer...name aside, this looks like a home run to me.

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by blw » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:49 am

TheDegenerateElite wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:36 am
The form factor kind of sucks. You can really rack mount it because of all the jacks on the top back, so it's one of these open frames that hog lots of desk space. Some one will come up with custom stands I bet.
The only jacks on the back are midi, power, and two footswitches. Seem like common things to be tucked in the back of a rack, and there appears to be plenty of clearance for them, too.

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by lud » Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:02 am

Is it another 3340 based vco job (are all their "reissues)? Sounds a bit like a 101 to me

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by brokensolderingiron » Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:48 am

Trachea wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:33 pm
Korg: 8-)
Behringer: :slapfight:
Not at all , rather Korg: :'( :moneyburn: while Bheringer: :bananaguitar:

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by Broadwave » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:08 pm

I built a full size 2600 clone and 3620 keyboard a few years back with 3 FULL VCOs and Sync on 1 & 2, with deliciously noisy LM301's throuout (none of that clean audio path for me). Sadly, unlike AMS, Behringer never got back to me when I applied to help out with future projects.

But hey ho... at least I won't be spending £3.5K on a KARP.

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by cg_funk » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:38 pm

Yeah.. the Korg version is awesome, everything I wanted in a re-release.

This Behringer version looks like a child’s toy by comparison. No speakers, no keyboard, ugly faceplate. Basically what you’d expect. Korg will probably sell every ARP they make!!

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by seta666 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:52 pm

cg_funk wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:38 pm
This Behringer version looks like a child’s toy by comparison. No speakers, no keyboard, ugly faceplate. Basically what you’d expect. Korg will probably sell every ARP they make!!
Are you serious? Nothing makes a synth look more like a toy than built in speakers ....
I actually like Behringer´s faceplate more, like a modern version of a classic. Probably will have more new features too.

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by coolshirtdotjpg » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:59 pm

cg_funk wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:38 pm
Yeah.. the Korg version is awesome, everything I wanted in a re-release.

This Behringer version looks like a child’s toy by comparison. No speakers, no keyboard, ugly faceplate. Basically what you’d expect. Korg will probably sell every ARP they make!!
Not all of us want to cosplay 70s prog rock.

I'm really excited about the design decisions they made for this. It went from, "I'm not getting either one of these' to this actually being a viable alternative to the odessy. Who cares about a built in speaker?! That's one of the goofiest/most useless things about the OG. I have my own spring reverb, so I'm not particularly worried about that part. Anyway, I love the idea of having this as a knobby/slidery rackmount synth. It would be awesome if they made their poly clones in that form factor.
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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by Spectromat » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:07 pm

TheDegenerateElite wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:36 am
Maybe he and Behringer are planning 2500 modules instead?
This..

Please :tu:

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by cg_funk » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:15 pm

coolshirtdotjpg wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:59 pm
cg_funk wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:38 pm
Yeah.. the Korg version is awesome, everything I wanted in a re-release.

This Behringer version looks like a child’s toy by comparison. No speakers, no keyboard, ugly faceplate. Basically what you’d expect. Korg will probably sell every ARP they make!!
Not all of us want to cosplay 70s prog rock.

I'm really excited about the design decisions they made for this. It went from, "I'm not getting either one of these' to this actually being a viable alternative to the odessy. Who cares about a built in speaker?! That's one of the goofiest/most useless things about the OG. I have my own spring reverb, so I'm not particularly worried about that part. Anyway, I love the idea of having this as a knobby/slidery rackmount synth. It would be awesome if they made their poly clones in that form factor.
Well that’s great too! Actually I do see how the behringer version will fit better into some studios. It’s smaller after all.

I do love how the Korg just went all in to make a really close to 100% OG version with the same form factor. The rack mount version is not as appealing to me. Funny how parts of the forum just loves the behringer, and other hate it, but I just think everything they make looks cheap and tacky. Call it cosplay if you want, but I like nice looking hardware!

Look forward to the side by side death match of these on YouTube.

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Re: Behringer 2600

Post by thebrotherspus » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:22 pm

coolshirtdotjpg wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:59 pm
Not all of us want to cosplay 70s prog rock.
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