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Please do my Maths homework

Post by Kid Narco » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:28 pm

I'm getting a Maths. I've somehow managed without one for fourteen years but I'm hoping its purchase will free up some space in the rack. My slightly backwards question, given my still shaky grasp of what Maths can do, is which (if any) of these venerable Doepfer modules would be rendered redundant?
A-170 SL
A-140 ADSR
A-145 LFO
A-146 LFO2
A-130 VCA
A-131 VCA
Conversely, any I'd be making a mistake by removing?
Many thanks

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Post by Astronaut FX » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:33 pm

It's difficult to answer that question without knowing your needs. Having some redundancy in a Eurorack system is not necessarily a bad thing. Unless of course you have more (fill in the blank) types of modules than you'll ever realistically need. Maybe the best answer is to recommend that incorporate the Maths into your system, and then pay attention to those modules that start the no longer get used, then start to weed them out.
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Post by shamann » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:53 pm

The two most likely to be made redundant are the slew and ADSR, with the caveat that Maths can't be those two things at the same time since it takes the two EG channels to patch an ADSR (but one channel could be slew while the other could be an ASR at the same time).

The LFOs might be made redundant, although Maths isn't the greatest at being a bipolar LFO.

Maths doesn't make for a very good VCA.

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Post by richc90 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:03 pm

shamann wrote:The LFOs might be made redundant, although Maths isn't the greatest at being a bipolar LFO.
I'm intrigued as to why you say this because I find Maths very flexible in this regard and it's super easy to patch (negative offset mixed with positive cycle).

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Post by Hovercraft » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:04 pm

You can likely drop the slew limiter, and maybe one of the LFOs. Using MATHS as an ADSR seems like a waste of the module.

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Post by shamann » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:15 pm

richc90 wrote:
shamann wrote:The LFOs might be made redundant, although Maths isn't the greatest at being a bipolar LFO.
I'm intrigued as to why you say this because I find Maths very flexible in this regard and it's super easy to patch (negative offset mixed with positive cycle).
Mostly because doing it that way, you lose some of the flexibility that comes with range, turning a 0 to 5v signal into -2.5 to 2.5v, rather than a -5 to 5v LFO.

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Post by richc90 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:39 pm

Fair enough. I thought the functions generated by the outer channels of Maths were 0-8v though, so with a -4v offset you get a +/-4v LFO?

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Post by shamann » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:03 pm

richc90 wrote:I thought the functions generated by the outer channels of Maths were 0-8v though
Are they? My mistake. The LFOs I have put out a wider range than when I use Maths with an offset, at least, whatever the specific voltages are (I confess I don't spend too much effort remembering voltage values).

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Post by richc90 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:11 pm

I'm confident the unity outputs of Maths are 0-8v so I'm *presuming* the fully attenuated outputs are the same. Having recently acquired a bunch of Harvestman modules which need 0-5v CVs, I've had to be a lot more aware of voltage ranges (and also become less bothered by bipolar LFOs).

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Post by djhyperspace » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:07 pm

Maths is king

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Post by stylesforfree » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:00 am

djhyperspace wrote:Maths is king
This.

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Post by Shledge » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:57 am

Keep your modules. More = more flexible.

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Post by mdoudoroff » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:21 am

My recommendation, absent any other imperative, would be to not remove any modules until they’ve proven they’re just not quite worth keeping.

Once you realize you’re not using a module any more, or that you’re only using it under duress, that’s a candidate. (You’re not obliged to like all modules equally.) But I also think you should always second guess yourself before pulling the trigger: are you neglecting a module out of laziness and you just never got around to really exploring it?

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Post by Kid Narco » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:17 am

Thanks for all the tips. Looking forward to what Maths will bring to the party.

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Post by dinosaurs » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:13 pm

I just picked up a maths this week and I just wasnt prepared for what that module can do.

as much as people crow about how great that module is, its still under-stated.

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Re: Please do my Maths homework

Post by MarcelP » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:10 pm

Kid Narco wrote: which (if any) of these venerable Doepfer modules would be rendered redundant?
Perhaps the question is the wrong way round - if you leave these modules in your rack will you find your new Maths is unemployed?

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Post by Pighood » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:02 pm

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Post by pmarchitect » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:59 pm

I'll do your homework if I can feel your tits

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