Where do you find your Production Techniques?

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Where do you find your Production Techniques?

Post by le_palace » Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:39 pm

Hey guys -

Been poking around the Production Techniques threads over the last few weeks and have found some really great stuff. Unfortunately, it seems like most just want to talk about new modules being released and less about creative techniques that aren't specific to MI Clouds. So the topics here don't get much love.

Surely there must be better sources for the stuff - maybe Gearslutz? Where do you guys find inspiring and educational content for creative production techniques?

Many thanks

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Post by shamann » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:12 pm

Gearslutz is similar to here, great for getting first person accounts on a specific mic/compressor/preamp, less great as idea fodder.

But, their Expert Q&A section has some great stuff in it, lots of fan service to wade through, but great technique ideas do pop up now and then. I'd recommend the Tchad Blake Q&A as a good place to start.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/expert- ... -archives/

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Post by ArboriaAuralist » Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:04 am

Well, first I encounter problems...

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Post by DubRules » Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:07 am

Theres a tutorial on youtube for everything..

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Post by TheRosskonian » Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:13 am

ArboriaAuralist wrote:Well, first I encounter problems...
Really this. I can read different techniques on mixing, mastering, composing, whatever, all day long, but what really sticks is when I am actively working towards something and have a problem. The research and experimentation in fixing it becomes the best teacher.


On a broader sense, as slow moving as this sub-board is, there is a LOT of knowledge posted here, use the search function and you'll likely find someone has already discussed it. I also listen to the UBK podcast regularly, (another thing I learned of from here), where they discuss a lot of mixing techniques among everything else. http://www.ubkhappyfuntimehour.com/ I've also got a lot of mileage out of the Groove3 videos. They host a lot of videos related to plugins, but there's a fair amount on production as well. I tend to stay away from youtube tutorials as they are usually not very deep at all. It can be entertaining when I want to see some guy play around with a new synth or I am barely scratching the surface of a new topic, but there's just too much crap out of there to spend time wading through all of it to find the gems. As with anything, your mileage will vary.

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Post by noisejockey » Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:46 am

I take a lot of inspiration from the recording of Normal Music(tm). Hearing and seeing people troubleshoot where drums, guitar, and bass fit in a mix is always enlightening, and if you ever re-amp or "worldize" your synths, it's all 100% applicable. Being synthesists, we are possessed of frequency ranges acoustic instruments don't always have, so things sitting in the mix is at least as critical as recording a four-piece rock band.

Searching for production techniques in YouTube will bring you to the usual suspects (Warren Huart, Dave Pensado, etc.) but there's gold out there if you can listen and absorb the broader ideas as opposed to the instrument-specific stuff. Older videos of folks like Vangelis, Peter Gabriel, and Brian Eno in the studio are fascinating and inspiring, even if it's just them fooling around for a mass market audience.

I also read and visit the forums of TapeOp. Any article or book on how a song or album was recorded is handy. SongExploder is kind of a neat podcast. If you wanna get REALLY inspired, watch the scoring featurette for the film Arrival.

If you mean JUST synth techniques and not broader music production techniques, there are thousands of synth jams, modular and otherwise, that will offer endless inspiration out there on YouTube and Vimeo.

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Post by dudeman » Tue May 02, 2017 12:48 am

a little more on the mix side of things, but pensado's place is an excellent resource. particularly the "into the lair" segement

http://www.pensadosplace.tv/category/into-the-lair/

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Post by GeneralBigBag » Tue May 02, 2017 12:58 am

Pensado is a goddamn champ. Well worth the time watching.


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Post by le_palace » Fri May 05, 2017 12:46 pm

JAO wrote:this is a good place to frequent:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160403115 ... ecrets.htm
I'm hip to SoS synth secrets and have read through a ton of them. Invaluable when I started learning synthesis! thanks for reminding me to go back!
ArboriaAuralist wrote:Well, first I encounter problems...
Hopefully you don't think Im too incompetent to google for a solution...

A lot of great things I've learned from blogs/videos have nothing to do with the music I'm making at the time.
DubRules wrote:Theres a tutorial on youtube for everything..
Any recommendations on some good channels to follow? i think we can all agree that youtube is quantity over quality.
TheRosskonian wrote: ...listen to the UBK podcast regularly.... Groove3 videos...
These look promising and I hadn't heard of them before. Thanks for sharing!
noisejockey wrote:I take a lot of inspiration from the recording of Normal Music(tm).

Older videos of folks like Vangelis, Peter Gabriel, and Brian Eno in the studio are fascinating and inspiring

I also read and visit the forums of TapeOp. Any article or book on how a song or album was recorded is handy. .... If you wanna get REALLY inspired, watch the scoring featurette for the film Arrival.
Great suggestions NoiseJockey. My current bread & butter is TapeOp. I keep 2 or 3 copies in my bag for my commute.

As far as legends in the studio... shit i never even thought to look up those old videos. Wonderful. Same with film scores. I've started on the Arrival featurette and it's been a great exercise in thinking about composition and spectrum in a different context.



Also, Pensado is a legend. Love his stuff. The guests on his show are top caliber as well.


Can't wait to dig in this weekend!

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Post by XXXEsq » Fri May 05, 2017 2:11 pm

Take a look at PureMix.net. Lots of good info from some great engineers.
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Post by stk » Sun May 07, 2017 7:19 am

There is no substitute for imagination, time, experimentation, and application.
Really. I know it sounds like an old cliche, and there will always be someone who comes along to say yeah but, it's nice to hear other people's experiences, and shortcuts, and tricks and.

Yeah but, nah. There's no substitute for imagination, time, experimentation and application :miley:

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Post by le_palace » Mon May 08, 2017 12:35 pm

definitely not a substitute. its a supplement! thanks for the wisdom :omg:

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Post by Standup » Wed May 10, 2017 3:32 pm

I've been listening to a lot of modular based music on youtube, trying to think about "How could I make that sound" or "that's a great combination of textures."

I picked up a mini portable recorder lately, I want to do some musique-concrete type stuff but haven't gotten around to it.

I try to walk around with my ears open to the world. Sometimes it works.

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Post by Standup » Wed May 10, 2017 3:37 pm

I'd love to see more discussion of production techniques. Guess I should come up with a topic or two.

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