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What’s the difference between Bon Iver and Oneohtrix Point Never?

Post by onthebandwagon » Sat May 09, 2020 5:43 pm

One has considerable mainstream success but has moved towards more experimental music, the other is very well respected on places like this forum and while less commercial still likely considerably successful, perhaps moving more towards accessibility. What are their main differences and perhaps are they more similar than different at this juncture in their careers?
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Re: What’s the difference between Bon Iver and Oneohtrix Point Never?

Post by oranginafiend » Sat May 09, 2020 5:58 pm

i thought this was going to be a joke.

i'm not a huge fan of opn but i'm aware of what he sounds like and i have no idea how the two are related at all.

also bon iver sucks.

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Post by B0bcat » Sat May 09, 2020 6:34 pm

uhm .. Bon Iver's first album was a dude with a beard and an acoustic guitar. Afterwards they moved towards "more experimental music" and somehow managed to keep some of their fans from three-five years before. OPN has no beard and no acoustic guitar album. What do I win?
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Re: What’s the difference between Bon Iver and Oneohtrix Point Never?

Post by onthebandwagon » Sat May 09, 2020 7:03 pm

It seems that each wants to be a bit like the other. Personally, I’m a bit indifferent to either’s music.
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Re: What’s the difference between Bon Iver and Oneohtrix Point Never?

Post by GuyaGuy » Sat May 09, 2020 7:09 pm

B0bcat wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 6:34 pm
uhm .. Bon Iver's first album was a dude with a beard and an acoustic guitar. Afterwards they moved towards "more experimental music" and somehow managed to keep some of their fans from three-five years before. OPN has no beard and no acoustic guitar album. What do I win?

-1 point because he has a beard and has in every pic and video I’ve seen.

But yeah I’ve never thought of Bon Iver’s music as more experimental. He just uses Ableton more.

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Post by onthebandwagon » Sat May 09, 2020 7:12 pm

GuyaGuy wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 7:09 pm
B0bcat wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 6:34 pm
uhm .. Bon Iver's first album was a dude with a beard and an acoustic guitar. Afterwards they moved towards "more experimental music" and somehow managed to keep some of their fans from three-five years before. OPN has no beard and no acoustic guitar album. What do I win?

-1 point because he has a beard and has in every pic and video I’ve seen.

But yeah I’ve never thought of Bon Iver’s music as more experimental. He just uses Ableton more.
Well, apparently he uses modular synthesizers too:

https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/08/ ... in-vernon/

but a bit irrelevant as someone could use Abelton to make a more “experimental” end product than someone using eurorack, for example.
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Post by B0bcat » Sat May 09, 2020 7:17 pm

GuyaGuy wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 7:09 pm
B0bcat wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 6:34 pm
uhm .. Bon Iver's first album was a dude with a beard and an acoustic guitar. Afterwards they moved towards "more experimental music" and somehow managed to keep some of their fans from three-five years before. OPN has no beard and no acoustic guitar album. What do I win?

-1 point because he has a beard and has in every pic and video I’ve seen.

But yeah I’ve never thought of Bon Iver’s music as more experimental. He just uses Ableton more.
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Re: What’s the difference between Bon Iver and Oneohtrix Point Never?

Post by GuyaGuy » Sat May 09, 2020 7:47 pm

onthebandwagon wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 7:12 pm
GuyaGuy wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 7:09 pm
B0bcat wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 6:34 pm
uhm .. Bon Iver's first album was a dude with a beard and an acoustic guitar. Afterwards they moved towards "more experimental music" and somehow managed to keep some of their fans from three-five years before. OPN has no beard and no acoustic guitar album. What do I win?

-1 point because he has a beard and has in every pic and video I’ve seen.

But yeah I’ve never thought of Bon Iver’s music as more experimental. He just uses Ableton more.
Well, apparently he uses modular synthesizers too:

https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/08/ ... in-vernon/

but a bit irrelevant as someone could use Abelton to make a more “experimental” end product than someone using eurorack, for example.
Yeah that’s what I was getting at. Just using electronic devices doesn’t make the music more experimental.

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Post by GuyaGuy » Sat May 09, 2020 7:48 pm

B0bcat wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 7:17 pm
GuyaGuy wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 7:09 pm
B0bcat wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 6:34 pm
uhm .. Bon Iver's first album was a dude with a beard and an acoustic guitar. Afterwards they moved towards "more experimental music" and somehow managed to keep some of their fans from three-five years before. OPN has no beard and no acoustic guitar album. What do I win?

-1 point because he has a beard and has in every pic and video I’ve seen.

But yeah I’ve never thought of Bon Iver’s music as more experimental. He just uses Ableton more.
I was speaking metaphorically
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Re: What’s the difference between Bon Iver and Oneohtrix Point Never?

Post by m0n0mania » Sun May 10, 2020 5:31 am

I don't know either of these but I must disagree in the strongest terms

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Post by onthebandwagon » Sun May 10, 2020 9:10 am

GuyaGuy wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 7:47 pm
onthebandwagon wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 7:12 pm
GuyaGuy wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 7:09 pm
B0bcat wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 6:34 pm
uhm .. Bon Iver's first album was a dude with a beard and an acoustic guitar. Afterwards they moved towards "more experimental music" and somehow managed to keep some of their fans from three-five years before. OPN has no beard and no acoustic guitar album. What do I win?

-1 point because he has a beard and has in every pic and video I’ve seen.

But yeah I’ve never thought of Bon Iver’s music as more experimental. He just uses Ableton more.
Well, apparently he uses modular synthesizers too:

https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/08/ ... in-vernon/

but a bit irrelevant as someone could use Abelton to make a more “experimental” end product than someone using eurorack, for example.
Yeah that’s what I was getting at. Just using electronic devices doesn’t make the music more experimental.
Indeed, but it also goes to show how people have a hard time moving beyond first impressions, forever to many he will just be that guy with a beard who wrote the awfully titled “skinny love”.
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Re: What’s the difference between Bon Iver and Oneohtrix Point Never?

Post by Fog Door » Sun May 10, 2020 12:15 pm

Never been a huge fan of either. IMO Bon Iver's songs were generally not quite good enough on his debut, his ST album was an improvement on all fronts but his new "experimental" stuff is pretty dreadful. I think it must be his last roll of the dice. OPN has done some really nice stuff but once he signed to Warp he sort of got infected with that Warp sound, which is fine, but less to my taste and less easy on my ears. So IMO I think they are both pretty much heading in the same direction :)

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Post by onthebandwagon » Sun May 10, 2020 3:21 pm

I think some of Bon Iver’s “experimental” stuff has interesting elements but overall sounds flat like cardboard and his pseudo spiritism type iconography is just as stale.
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Post by trickness » Mon May 11, 2020 8:54 pm

Kathleen Edwards thinks one is a huge douche and the other she’s never heard of

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Post by dubonaire » Tue May 12, 2020 3:09 am

I first thought what are you talking about, but then I checked out a recent OPN track and I thought WTF! Yeah it seems he's turned into a contemporary Warp act.

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Post by onthebandwagon » Tue May 12, 2020 9:22 am

“Love in the Age of Lexapro” is a song title that makes me cringe and not in a GG Allin sort of way.
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Post by Red Electric Rainbow » Tue May 12, 2020 9:40 am

OPN has moved into film score and has done an excellent job in regards to that IMO.
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Post by onthebandwagon » Fri May 29, 2020 7:41 am

Red Electric Rainbow wrote:
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OPN has moved into film score and has done an excellent job in regards to that IMO.
I watched Uncut Gems last night and agree he did a good job on the score.
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Post by dooj88 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:57 pm

anyone catch the new OPN album? just came out today. he's actually got guest musicians doing vocals. concept album around a day of radio programming.

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Post by Voltcontrol » Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:02 pm

onthebandwagon wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 5:43 pm
One has considerable mainstream success but has moved towards more experimental music, the other is very well respected on places like this forum and while less commercial still likely considerably successful, perhaps moving more towards accessibility. What are their main differences and perhaps are they more similar than different at this juncture in their careers?
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Post by onthebandwagon » Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:18 pm

Voltcontrol wrote:
Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:02 pm
onthebandwagon wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 5:43 pm
One has considerable mainstream success but has moved towards more experimental music, the other is very well respected on places like this forum and while less commercial still likely considerably successful, perhaps moving more towards accessibility. What are their main differences and perhaps are they more similar than different at this juncture in their careers?
Sometimes I think I’m the one creating a thread for every brainfart I have. Ghehhehehe
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Post by onthebandwagon » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:22 pm

dooj88 wrote:
Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:57 pm
anyone catch the new OPN album? just came out today. he's actually got guest musicians doing vocals. concept album around a day of radio programming.
Just checked it out...he sounds even more like Bon Iver.
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Post by Voltcontrol » Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:36 pm

onthebandwagon wrote:
Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:18 pm
Voltcontrol wrote:
Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:02 pm
onthebandwagon wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 5:43 pm
One has considerable mainstream success but has moved towards more experimental music, the other is very well respected on places like this forum and while less commercial still likely considerably successful, perhaps moving more towards accessibility. What are their main differences and perhaps are they more similar than different at this juncture in their careers?
Sometimes I think I’m the one creating a thread for every brainfart I have. Ghehhehehe
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Well it doesn't take marketing degree to take the "f" out of brainfart and turn it into brainart(c).
Well. I'm from the Netherlands, so I know what that kind of thinking usually takes. :party:

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