Unsung / lesser-known software for musics?

Reaktor, MAX/MSP, VST/AU, etc. A place for all things soft....

Moderators: Joe., lisa, luketeaford, Kent

Veteran Wiggler
Posts: 509
Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:38 am

Unsung / lesser-known software for musics?

Post by odditymedium » Fri May 26, 2017 6:00 pm

Yes, musics in plural.

I'm talking of stuff like:

Xronomorph (any of Dynamic Tonality's warez, really, I just included Xronomorph cos its the best tool I've seen for Euclidean rhythms)

Top-notch VST/AU's also welcome. Madrona Lab's Aalto comes to mind.

The more obscure/niche the better.
Last edited by odditymedium on Fri May 26, 2017 6:14 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 2125
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:49 pm
Location: ̋͋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̏̏ ̏ ˳̊̊̊̊̊ ˳̥̥̥̥̥̊̊̊̊̊̊̊˳̥˯Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿▂ ̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋̋

Post by solaris » Fri May 26, 2017 6:07 pm

▂̵̶̵̥̤̳̤̇̈̄̅̈□ □ □ □ □ □ □ □ □ t r a n s f e k t i o n ▔▔▔▔╲▂▂▁▂▂̵̶̵̥̤̳̤̇̈̄̅̈▂▁▁
▂̵̶̵̥̤̳̤̇̈̄̅̈□ □ ▂̵̶̵̥̤̳̤̇̈̄̅̈▂̵̶̵̥̤̳̤̇̈̄̅̈▂̵̶̵̥̤̳̤̇̈̄̅̈□ ▂̵̶̵̥̤̳̤̇̈̄̅̈▔╲▂̥̥̊̊̊̊▂ ‬::.:::.h++p://z.x-xx---x.info □ □ □ □ □ □ □ □ □‬

Veteran Wiggler
Posts: 509
Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:38 am

Post by odditymedium » Fri May 26, 2017 6:15 pm

solaris wrote:marcohack


Re: Unsung / lesser-known software for musics?

Post by cycad73 » Sun May 28, 2017 11:39 am

odditymedium wrote:Yes, musics in plural.

I'm talking of stuff like:

Xronomorph (any of Dynamic Tonality's warez, really, I just included Xronomorph cos its the best tool I've seen for Euclidean rhythms)
Thanks -- everything on this site is interesting. It's kind of a formalization of stuff I've worked out on my own by trial and error. I followed various links to a CMJ article explaining the theory behind this tool:

Computational creation and morphing of multilevel rhythms by control of evenness

The idea of "well-formed" hierarchical structures, tonal as well as rhythmic is quite interesting. I've been approaching polyrhythms more from the idea of phasing (horizontally) without realizing that there are very rich theoretical structures behind the content of such rhythms, and that there can be vertical as well as horizontal integration.

I found also a link to Guerino Mazzola's book -- Cool Math for Hot Music

It's hard sometimes to follow these developments because I'm not much a fan of the closed environment of software. Something like Max that I can program myself and use to control hardware, is the exception.

It seems that if one is doing interesting research in music theory the result is always accompanied by some app or plugin, because that's where the money is (people looking to get hired by large SW companies, so they develop skills mainly in these areas).

User avatar
Scot Solida
Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 1255
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:54 pm
Location: Great Bend, Kansas

Post by Scot Solida » Sun May 28, 2017 12:37 pm

I've been digging HISE a lot lately. It's a Kontakt-like sample player/synth, but the cool thing is that you can build your own instruments complete with scripts and custom interfaces, these can then be exported as VST, AU, AAX plugs on Mac, Windows, Linux as well as spitting out standalone instruments for all three platforms plus iOS apps. Open source and free if you don't want to commercialize the things you make.


Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 2948
Joined: Wed Dec 25, 2013 6:24 am

Post by adam » Sun May 28, 2017 12:46 pm


User avatar
Scot Solida
Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 1255
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:54 pm
Location: Great Bend, Kansas

Post by Scot Solida » Sun May 28, 2017 12:53 pm

Not sure if it could be considered 'lesser known' or not, but Usine is also very cool:


I also like Trilobite quite a lot, though the free version is a bit buggy:


User avatar
Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 1010
Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:40 am
Location: mpls

Post by poppinger » Sun May 28, 2017 2:49 pm

There's Hourglass and apparently he's working on a pretty cool looking piece of software that incorporates a bunch of things from CDP with the Hourglass granular stuff.

Spear is pretty interesting.

Also, Tapestrea.

Common Wiggler
Posts: 163
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:41 pm

Post by Ramases » Sun May 28, 2017 2:52 pm

Virtual ANS is quite good fun.


Common Wiggler
Posts: 96
Joined: Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:06 pm
Location: Brookings OR USA

Post by dpcoffin » Sun May 28, 2017 4:01 pm

Thanks all; fantastic thread:)

The fact that anything as simple, powerful and delightful as Xronomorph might still be obscure is pretty baffling tho!

Hypercyclic may not have the same depth or range as these others but is worth adding, I think…

User avatar
Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 2889
Joined: Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:18 pm
Location: vancity

Post by mt3 » Mon May 29, 2017 12:37 am

sknote - quality for cheap
epic soundlabs - for morphing and maximizing CPU fan rotation
inear display - especially their freeware
twisted tools - all
flux trax - amazing

User avatar
Common Wiggler
Posts: 116
Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:06 pm
Location: Edmonton, Alberta

Post by Swann » Tue May 30, 2017 9:41 am

Maybe not unknown, but worth mentioning.

It's a bit higher level than PD/MAX but still quite powerful.

Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 1114
Joined: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:41 pm
Location: North'ish London, UK

Post by Luap » Tue May 30, 2017 11:16 am

I was going to start a thread about this, but this one will do..

Oscistudio. Basically bespoke software geared towards oscilloscope music. Its a little crude currently, but still very cool.



User avatar
Common Wiggler
Posts: 127
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:38 am
Location: From anywhere, but tomorrow will be in Greece

Post by Scolbio » Wed May 31, 2017 9:07 pm

Thank you guys for all the links
I just had a little fun with DIN 8-)

User avatar
Let's go do some crimes
Posts: 1510
Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:26 pm
Location: Southern California

Post by justin3am » Wed May 31, 2017 9:34 pm

I've had lots of fun with Gleetchlab and Berna
"Thank god for the drugs and drums." El-P
3amNoise | Synth Videos

User avatar
0118 999 881 999 119 7253
Posts: 493
Joined: Wed May 07, 2008 11:03 am
Location: birmingham, alabama

Post by flippantminister » Wed May 31, 2017 9:55 pm

solaris wrote:marcohack
th0nk was the best. Loved it. Didn't fool with software again for a long time after i upgraded past its usability...

User avatar
Wiggling with Experience
Posts: 336
Joined: Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:29 am
Location: Tennessee, USA

Post by Vortico » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:16 pm

All these suggestions are fantastic, especially the spectral editing software! I should add to the list some mod trackers: OpenMPT, FamiTracker, Psycle, etc. Good for sequencing MIDI quickly since you can specify which channel notes are played on with multichannel Eurorack MIDI to CV interfaces.

User avatar
Wiggling with Experience
Posts: 465
Joined: Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:38 pm
Location: England

Post by Riggar » Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:51 am

love this and use it muchly ...

Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch - http://hypermammut.sourceforge.net/paulstretch/

User avatar
Common Wiggler
Posts: 213
Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:02 pm

Post by astrodislocate » Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:34 pm


Jinrai - A really interesting synth, admittedly with a pretty unintuitive layout. Even if you don't know what's going on though you can get some pretty unique stuff out of it with little effort.

Colugo's Blocks - All of them are criminally underrated.

SalamanderAnagram's "transform" ensembles - He made these about 5 years ago, and they don't seem to be on the user library for whatever reason, but they're great.


the "sound design with Max" patches Bunch of great stuff here, including Endjinn, one of the best asynchronous granular synths I know of. Also "Random Slice Container", which is probably the closest thing out there to a Max version of S-Layer.

"Modulate!" A standalone modular synth software made in Max. The standalone program is for OSX, which means I can't personally use it, but the source code patches for individual modules can be made into abstractions regardless of OS, and they're pretty good.


Glitchmachines plugins "Glitch" seems to be becoming a bit of a buzzword these days, but in this case it really is a decent descriptor of what a lot of the plugins do. Pretty good prices, too.

Variety of Sound plugins Damn fine tools for mixing and mastering, all of them free. Only caveat is that they're only for Windows

User avatar
Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 15467
Joined: Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:03 pm
Location: oregon

Post by ignatius » Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:41 pm



five12 numerology

recently updated Aeries verb. more than reverb. does weird shit.


anarchy FX


User avatar
Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 3396
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:50 pm

Post by PrimateSynthesis » Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:56 pm

ignatius wrote:renoise
FS: Rare Morley Rotating Wah Oil Can Delay!

Since the forum has gone back to being 100% community funded, I've decided to donate half the proceeds from the Morley Rotating Wah this thread is supposedly selling :miley:

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=131332

User avatar
Veteran Wiggler
Posts: 591
Joined: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:07 am
Location: Brisvagueness

Post by secretkillerofnames » Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:36 pm

ignatius wrote:
recently updated Aeries verb. more than reverb. does weird shit.
Gosh it's on Mac now?!?

This is the guy who worked for Creative Labs or Aureal or something?

User avatar
Common Wiggler
Posts: 69
Joined: Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:18 am
Location: Philippines

Post by wiggy81 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:35 am

+1 for Spear. Fair warning though, once you figure out how to use it - you will loose hours checking out your samples. :mrgreen:

User avatar
Tardis Chauffeur
Posts: 970
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:46 pm
Location: The T.A.R.D.I.S. (everywhere, anytime)

Post by Tobor » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:34 am

Spear is poor men's audiosculpt, it was used to extract spectral data for Open Music.

I may suggest Gleetchlab 4... I want to release it in autumn

Post Reply

Return to “Music Software”