tobb wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:15 am
No,it is not,these are not boutique units,these are produced in quantity,those sockets/faders are ordered in high quantity and so are also very cheap,idem for the knobs,custom molding knobs these days cost peanuts (why do you think you can have now all colors of fake Davies knobs...,the resale prices are unrealistic VS the real cost)
Everything is mega cheap on this synth including the ridiculous PSU.. and yes those pieces of wood housing cost peanuts,you forget its made in high quantity,not a 20 piece boutique batch.
The tolexing likely takes a bit xtra time due to delicate handling,but its not a single piece they do,its chain-work so goes fast,everything is pre-cut
Tobb, Can you point to one of your posts an *any* thread on *any* site where you said the price was *not* too high?
Do you have any real world experience building electrronics for sale to the general consumer?
I have seen you minimize the cost of so many different synths and related products that i just expect that you will again make the kind of reply seen here.
Custom molding Davies 1900 knobs which sell across many different products means they're amortizing the mold and devlopment costs among a huge number of parts. If we assume Korg made 1000 of these 2600's -which seems reasonable given various identified country allocation of units- then they made 57000 slider knobs. This number is high enough that they had to use expensive mold steel and could not take advantage ofthe less expensive means to product modled parts. Such molds themselves cost thousands, or many thousands of dollars. I am not speaking from guesses, but from actual experience receiving quotes from Chinese -and American- knob manufacturers.
But this doesn't really matter because it's still taking the bait of your belief as shared in too many posts to count that parts cost is themain driver of expense. It is not. And never has been.
There is a video online of a commercial tolexing operation at a guitar amp maker in Petaluma california. Have a look to see just how much equipment and skilled operators are required. Don;t forget to add the costs of shipping the 2600 cases, since Korg already shared that they couldn't have done this without resorting to the use of one of their Amp brands to make the Tolex cases. FWIW the pre-cutting you speak of has to be done, and that involves both a die board with knives, and a large press. Seen in the video I mentioned. Even factories have topay for their machinery and keep it in good shape. An additional cost.
It is clear from your many posts on this subject of pricing that you have no clear understanding of what "real cost" means. As a result, you mislead others to think everybody's involved in some kind of high price tactic, instead of simply covering their *actual*
real costs.
I don't expect to convince you. This is more for those who might take time to think about the subject and investigate why things cost what they do.