Modal 002 or Novation Summit?

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Modal 002 or Novation Summit?

Post by Just me » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:45 pm

For about the same money I can have either one of these.
I'm leaning more to the Novation Summit in my mind but thought I'd ask you folks opinion on them.
For the same money I could do a Peak and an Argon 8X. But would rather have 1 full size synthesizer.
If I have water in my ear, is it safe for me to listen to electronic music?

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Re: Modal 002 or Novation Summit?

Post by Divinital » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:08 pm

Just me wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:45 pm
For about the same money I can have either one of these.
I'm leaning more to the Novation Summit in my mind but thought I'd ask you folks opinion on them.
For the same money I could do a Peak and an Argon 8X. But would rather have 1 full size synthesizer.
Where the hecc you finding an 002 for the same price? I got a Summit for $1,650 new + shipping.

Modal 002s new are $4.5k... if they were the same price I think I’d snag the Modal in that case...

However, I can not recommend the Summit enough. It’s my favorite modern (relatively affordable// <$4k) poly synth, if not tied with the Matriarch, and now Korg/ARP 2600 in their respective categories...

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Re: Modal 002 or Novation Summit?

Post by Just me » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:07 pm

There is a used 002 for $2000 in my area. Otherwise they are out of my price range.
If I have water in my ear, is it safe for me to listen to electronic music?

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Re: Modal 002 or Novation Summit?

Post by Divinital » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:27 pm

Just me wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:07 pm
There is a used 002 for $2000 in my area. Otherwise they are out of my price range.
Nice, that’s a great price for a nice synth out of the range of most. Worst case you try it out and swap it for a Summit at minimal loss if any, but, I’ve never played the 002.

I believe playing something in person will tell you a lot about how much you’ll like it, no matter the price.

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Re: Modal 002 or Novation Summit?

Post by donato » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:02 pm

I’d go 002 all the way. And at that price, wow.

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Re: Modal 002 or Novation Summit?

Post by submute » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:38 pm

Divinital wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:08 pm
Where the hecc you finding an 002 for the same price? I got a Summit for $1,650 new + shipping.
Whoa where did you find a Summit new for 1650?

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Re: Modal 002 or Novation Summit?

Post by Divinital » Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:42 pm

submute wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:38 pm
Divinital wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:08 pm
Where the hecc you finding an 002 for the same price? I got a Summit for $1,650 new + shipping.
Whoa where did you find a Summit new for 1650?
Since it's not possible anymore, I'll share. If you'll become disappointed it's not possible, stop reading here :hihi:

ProAudioStar momentarily had them in stock and at the original MSRP of $1,999. I had an 18% off coupon that worked likely because it was a new inventory product and they didn't adjust their code requirements.

I then tried to get it price matched at a better distributor and it worked! The $1,650, or maybe around $1,670, I can't remember, was their offer. Had I purchased it at ProAudioStar it would've been a nifty $1,640, but I've read a bit of shade towards them so I tend to stay away.

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Re: Modal 002 or Novation Summit?

Post by clusterchord » Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:32 pm

Summit can do much much more. 002 is comparably limited in many ways.. but a few mod sources, no filter fm, no wave scanning etc.

that said, 002 sounds absolutely heavenly. imo its a different league from Summit, that there is no comparison.

the oscillators, the filters,,, absolutely grandiose. one of the classics of our era. imho.


that price is crazy. i would grab it right away.
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Re: Modal 002 or Novation Summit?

Post by dogoftears » Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:27 pm

only get the 002 if you are ok with this being your sine wave--
http://xexify.com/modal/modal9900test.wav

yes all that aliasing and dc offset is "normal" according to modal.
this was from an 001
i found it to be unacceptably noisy and dirty-- no way i could've made a whole mix with those sounds.
their support was not super friendly with me either.

YMMV. i think they are a sketchy company.

the summit does 999x more with legit support from a legit company that's been around for decades. nevermind the price difference.
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Re: Modal 002 or Novation Summit?

Post by galaxiesmerge » Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:42 pm

I recommend both. I only recently ordered the Summit but I own three of the MODAL 002 synths (2 of 002R racks and 1 keyboard). I will likely sell one rack so pm me if interested else I will post on Reverb in a couple of weeks. The Summit is completely different to the Modal so its not a fair comparison - it depends upon what you want to achieve. I would compare the Summit to the Waldorf Quantum because they both have FM and wavetables as well as traditional oscillator waveforms with analog filters. The Modal is waveforms only not wave tables but you can do vector-synthesis with the Modal. So these are very different.

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