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Post by davidjames » Tue May 30, 2017 4:51 pm

Came across this in one of the Superbooth videos. At first I didn't pay much attention but it looks to be a lot of fun. Seems like it has some limitations but its also a great price compared to the more robust options like Engine or Cirklon. Anyone else excited for it?

https://twisted-electrons.com/crazy8/

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Post by mongrol » Wed May 31, 2017 4:18 am

I actually quite fancy this. If it did CC's I'd be right there. I have a Midibox and it's just a tad underneath DAW status for me in terms of song composition, but then at the other end of the scale it's not so immediate for live performance that it's fast enough workflow wise to get a tune from head to speaker quickly enough. Sometimes you just want something simple to do the job without the complexity of a cirklon.

Gonna squiz over the manual of this thing....

Ninja edit: No cc's, limited chords, more step than realtime. It's definitely not quicker than a Midibox in head to speaker terms so I'll pass.

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Post by rhythmdial » Wed May 31, 2017 8:48 am

WOW! this is fantastic! As an acid8 user this should be a lot of fun to use and easy to use. that is a lot of connectivity in a small package!
I think this and a Zaquencer side by side will be major sequencing power for my rig. Definitely on my to-buy list for this year, I can picture using most of the cv/gate for filter or drum modulations in my skiff

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Post by loowfizzz » Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:07 am

I am really waiting for this...

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Post by mongrol » Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:09 pm

I still quite fancy it as well.

Also... I emailed Alex and basically told him to make a drum synth already. Turns out they've been working on one for a few months. Really hope it's a synth and not a PCM based thing. They world need somethins to replace the LXR I sold.

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Post by djthopa » Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:31 pm

I recently got one.

I like it but it would be great if there was a mode where you could see active states of four channels.

Im actually only using the cv / gate outs, but not having any reference where the notes or steps of each channel are is quite confusing.

Maybe this could be implemented on a future update? :nana:

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Post by mongrol » Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:56 am

Any update on this one? Has anything changed, updated? stagnated and been sold on?

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Post by GovernorSilver » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:26 pm

Forgot about this one. been thinking of getting a Korg SQ-1 to sequence pitch CV to my Lyra-8.

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Post by Panason » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:54 pm

A MIDI sequencer without CC support is inexcusable these days.

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Post by GovernorSilver » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:04 pm

Just read elsewhere "Midi CC per step or different notes per step"

They need to update the manual and the website with this info to confirm. To easy to spread fake news about MIDI CC or whatever on blogs, forums, etc. without the official info.

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Post by Nelson Baboon » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:08 pm

Panason wrote:A MIDI sequencer without CC support is inexcusable these days.
do you think that manufacturers should be thrown in jail for neglecting this?

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Post by Panason » Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:05 pm

Nelson Baboon wrote:
Panason wrote:A MIDI sequencer without CC support is inexcusable these days.
do you think that manufacturers should be thrown in jail for neglecting this?
Nah, jail's too good for them. They should be forced to listen to elevator music made only with General Midi modules for the rest of their lives.

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Post by Sir Ruff » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:08 am

Has anyone compared this to the Engine? I'm assuming Engine is more complex/has more features... But it's also more than twice the cost. For someone who is generally hardware sequencer averse (when multiple button combos are needed), I'm wondering if this would be a better unit for live/sketch work.

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Post by GovernorSilver » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:30 am

I don't see any proof of whether or not MIDI CC support is actually there.

No proof was provided by the OP or anyone else on this thread.

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Post by Sir Ruff » Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:11 pm

GovernorSilver wrote:I don't see any proof of whether or not MIDI CC support is actually there.
Why would you think that this supported midi CC in the first place? There are no options for external control of anything via midi other than pitch/gate.

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Post by GovernorSilver » Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:44 pm

Sir Ruff wrote:
GovernorSilver wrote:I don't see any proof of whether or not MIDI CC support is actually there.
Why would you think that this supported midi CC in the first place? There are no options for external control of anything via midi other than pitch/gate.
I don't think it does. I don't think it doesn't.

Just trying to verify whether or not the info in the OP was accurate.
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Post by GovernorSilver » Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:57 pm

There's actually another product called Crazy8 Beats. Link for those of you who are unfamiliar with Google ;)

https://twisted-electrons.com/product/c ... pre-order/

"MIDI velocity amount, CC modulation, or both per step."

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Post by Sir Ruff » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:36 pm

GovernorSilver wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
GovernorSilver wrote:I don't see any proof of whether or not MIDI CC support is actually there.
Why would you think that this supported midi CC in the first place? There are no options for external control of anything via midi other than pitch/gate.
I don't think it does. I don't think it doesn't.

Just trying to verify whether or not the info in the OP was accurate.
Got it. A perusal of the Crazy8 demo vids on their website gives zero indication that midi CC is supported.

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Post by mongrol » Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:16 am

You could write and ask? He does respond fairly quickly.

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Post by GovernorSilver » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:23 am

I was going to email Twisted Electrons to ask, because I'm not in the habit of relying on the accuracy of what people on forums before spending money on gear.

but then saw the newer Crazy8 Beats.

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Post by Mr. Sound Boy King » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:46 am

Has anyone copped a CRAZY8 BEATS?

If so, what's up? Does it rule hard?

I'm especially curious how the CRAZY and DRILL modes sound.

CRAZY8 BEATS fascinates me.

Since I already have a Sonic Potions LXR this box may prove redundant.

It seems like a Sonic Potions LXR without the synth engine.

But even so... it looks quite rad.

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Post by TechForze » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:59 pm

Crazy8 beats on modulargrid. Also links to some demo vids.
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/twisted-e ... azy8-beats
Can be changed to a 40hp euroravk module.
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Post by Panason » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:31 pm

Just read the brief manual:

This is really a drum sequencer. Each track sends a single MIDI note and you cannot change the note length.

You can only send one CC per track.

With that out of the way, on paper it does look like you can do some pretty cool stuff with your drum synth/sampler and this.


Like most similar machines it lacks a way of triggering the patterns from another MIDI sequencer.... :doh:


And this should be the other way around:
Change Patterns
Press any of the pads to change the pattern of the selected track.
Hold shift to change all tracks to a same pattern
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Press any of the pads to change pattern, hold shift to only change the pattern of the selected track only, DUDE! :doh:

The manual could do with some proof reading too!

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Post by bedhed3000 » Wed May 30, 2018 12:39 am

I got a Crazy8 Beats a few weeks ago. It's pretty fun to jam on, but there are a few weird issues. Has anyone else tried it? I'm very curious to hear about other people's experiences.

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Post by starthief » Wed May 30, 2018 7:22 am

bedhed3000 wrote:It's pretty fun to jam on, but there are a few weird issues.
That's the experience I had with the Therapsid and AY3 (both mk1) I had from them a few years ago. (Of course, the SID chip has its own weird issues to start with, but I knew those going in.)

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