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Handheld Digital Recorders?

Post by chysn » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:15 am

Sometimes I want to record a couple takes with my eurorack synth, but I don't want to drag out the laptop table, the audio interface, and start up Reaper. (As you can tell, I don't have a dedicated studio machine.)

I'm wondering if any wigglers have tried some of the various small, handheld, digital recorders that are out there. Which, if any, do you find suitable for eurorack recording?
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Post by tromasom » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:31 am

I use a Zoom H4n connected to Pittsburgh Outs and the results are good.

It's nice and convenient, though it's SO convenient that my Zoom is always packed with hours of aimless noodling that I probably shouldn't have bothered to record.

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Post by Jamnuska » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:41 am


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Post by guestt » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:44 am

Yes!

Tascam DR-40 here!! Great results :)

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Post by Ramases » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:47 am

Basically any handheld digital recorder will do the job fine.

It's not like you are going to be in need of ultra low noise Mic pre amps to capture really quiet sounds or anything with the signal strength that modulars put out.

The threads Jamnuska links should give you all you need to know.

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Post by jwm » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:48 am

+1 for DR-40

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Post by arnoux » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:55 am

For the same reason I used a Tascam DR100MK2, Tascam 246 4track tape cassette recorder (and now Sound Devices 722 but I have not published anything recorded with that yet..).

This in exemple was recorded on the DR100MK2:
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Loved the 246 experience, loved the sound and the approach,
here how it sounds with modular and electronics:

Not as fast as the drag and drop of a digital unit but fun
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Post by guestt » Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:02 pm

Here's a through the air recording on the DR-40 - 100% live improvisation part of an evenings jam that just happened to work out nice - I just faded the beginning and ends, you can hear me playing the modular hehe, little clicks and clacks, I like it anyway :)

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Post by veets » Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:39 pm

I bought a Tascam DR-05 a bunch of years ago to record my daughter's choral concerts. It's lightweight, inexpensive, easy to use, reliable and they're on-sale right now at B&H.

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Post by gonkulator » Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:52 pm

I have made a few hundred recordings with my Olympus LS-14. In fact, it was the only thing I recorded to for over a year despite having a fully functional DAW sitting right next to it. That's how sucked into modular I was (and still am, but I took a ten minute break and finally connected it.)
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Check out the Korg Sound On Sound SR-1 ... unlimited overdubs that are saved as separate wav files

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I use a Sony PCM-M10 and am very happy with it.

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Post by schwittersplayspop » Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:08 pm

It's nice and convenient, though it's SO convenient that my Zoom is always packed with hours of aimless noodling that I probably shouldn't have bothered to record.
Exactly the same for me, although I have a Zoom H2 (old silver version). Quite happy with the results. I find the Zoom recorder is easy to use and to monitor through as well.

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Post by grep » Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:13 pm

I have a Zoom H5 which can act as an audio interface. So you can plug your phone into it and take video with pristine sound and no editing to sync your audio and video afterward.

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Post by Djumpmonkey » Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:21 pm

Tascam's DR-40 is a solid little recorder. I used one for a couple years before I was able to go to Sound Devices. It wouldn't do you wrong, But it's inputs are all balanced so make sure you take that into account.
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Post by aeon_flux » Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:41 pm

roland r26. kind of retro (2012) but it has key feature for me which is analog gain control pre-ADC. regular pots no up/down keys, no encoders, no software controlled.

if you clip signal post-ADC gain control will not help. this is why i stopped using my zoom h1.

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Post by Koa » Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:47 pm

DR100mkii for me. Love that thing.

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Post by chysn » Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:55 pm

I appreciate all the responses, even though the question has been asked before.

Although I'm probably leaning toward something like the Tascam DR-05 for its simplicity, I'm having nostalgic flashbacks at the mention of the Tascam 246. I never considered going back to cassette, but I suppose I could get an old Marantz portable recorder, too.
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Post by slumberjack » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:27 pm

grep wrote:I have a Zoom H5 which can act as an audio interface. So you can plug your phone into it and take video with pristine sound and no editing to sync your audio and video afterward.
how do you connect these two devices?
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Post by grep » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:56 pm

iPhone>Lightning CCK>USB-A to USB Mini-A Cable>Zoom H5 USB Port

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Post by Pighood » Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:18 pm

IPhone app PureAudio replaced all my hardware recorders.
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Re: Handheld Digital Recorders?

Post by three86 » Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:37 pm

chysn wrote:Sometimes I want to record a couple takes with my eurorack synth, but I don't want to drag out the laptop table, the audio interface, and start up Reaper. (As you can tell, I don't have a dedicated studio machine.)

I'm wondering if any wigglers have tried some of the various small, handheld, digital recorders that are out there. Which, if any, do you find suitable for eurorack recording?
I have tried several and some rack mount ones and also mixers that can record to usb stick/drive. The problem for me is that I found I hate transferring recorded files around and so they just end up sitting on whatever device they were recorded with. Maybe because I'm not that serious about creating songs but I still do want to be able to hear other places like my car or computer with different speakers.

So now I record straight from eurorack into my android phone. And from there I upload/share with soundcloud. It is super easy workflow. Here is how I do it:

I go out of my eurorack makenoise rosie module split into my monitors and into a scarlett 2i4 usb interface. I could do it without the split (with scarlett running the monitors) but I don't always have my phone connected and scarlett needs a computer to run the outs. I used the scarlett because I had one lying around but there are a lot of usb interfaces that will work.

My galaxy s7 with the usb dongle it came with plugs into the scarlett and also powers it whenever I feel like recording. I use an app called USB Audio Recorder Pro I think it was $5. That records to stereo wav file 44.1/24bit files. Then I open those files with another free app called TapeMachine which I use to trim, fade in/out, normalize. TapeMachine also has a share button that can send to the SoundCloud app which uploads a new recording. I snap a pic and its shared.

If you want to check out the sound quality: https://soundcloud.com/artist_3

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Post by pinkflag16 » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:58 pm

edit: nevermind :guinness: :drunkbanana:
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Post by franman69 » Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:01 am

I picked up a Tascam DR-05 for under $100 so I could do field recordings as well as record my modular lunchbox out of the studio... so far it's been flawless. Great quality and easy to use. Batteries last a good while as well... I recommend it, but in my house, I'll drag my laptop over to the rig anytime to record.

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Post by mharpum » Mon Dec 12, 2016 5:53 am

I just got a Tascam DR-05, £66! Absolute bargain.

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