Pots on Manis Iteritas Magnus as attenuators?

[minipusice]

Hi there,

anyone knows if pots work as cv attenuators on Manis Iteritas Magnus? For example, if i put a square LFO in a SMASH input jack, will the SMASH pot attenuate the LFO's cv when turned ccv?

Thanks in advance!
Karlo

[ranix]

people always look at me weird when I say I don't like euro panel conventions even with noise engineering stuff, but this is a great example. What the heck is a SMASH input? What a worthless label. The label should convey the function. Let's see what the manual says? Hmm...

Oh, it's all so clear now...

[Rex Coil 7]

people always look at me weird when I say I don't like euro panel conventions even with noise engineering stuff, but this is a great example. What the heck is a SMASH input? What a worthless label. The label should convey the function. Let's see what the manual says? Hmm...

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Oh, it's all so clear now...

... what the hells the matter with you son? .... everybody knows what ~smash~ is .... god yer stoopid.

[ranix]

[MrNezumi]

On most NE modules the pots offset (cv plus level) when the jacks are in use. My BIM eats up a few attenuators when in use. I assume the MIM is the same.

[Rex Coil 7]

.. I mean what else should we expect from a module called the Experidood Floppyanus DelTaco Bugnatious? (that's latin for ~noisey ass rattlebucket stankshooter~ to you and me kids!).














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[Thorsday]

Noise Engineering definitely overlooked 5U users'
expectations... Front panel esthetics and functions labeling really miss the mark. Only saving grace is the sound.

[MrNezumi]

OK Boomers. Get out of the way and let the next generation of 5u users through. If knobs that aren’t in a straight row and two knobs with unique names have you this upset just take your heart medicine and sit in your rocking chair.

[KipKubin]

BIM into a Yusynth Arp2600 filter - one of the most rewarding musical modules out there. I still haven’t used it for percussion.

[Sugarfree]

OK Boomers. Get out of the way and let the next generation of 5u users through. If knobs that aren’t in a straight row and two knobs with unique names have you this upset just take your heart medicine and sit in your rocking chair.

If you don't care about the small details of a good, user-friendly design, don't put it on a generational difference. Millennials can be as brilliant and meticulous as any generation before.

[ranix]

I am a millennial

[Dave Peck]

So to answer the OPs question, in THIS case, it would appear that the pot associated with the "smash" input does not behave like a CV attenuator, it is a distortion amount control.

[MrNezumi]

OK Boomers. Get out of the way and let the next generation of 5u users through. If knobs that aren’t in a straight row and two knobs with unique names have you this upset just take your heart medicine and sit in your rocking chair.

If you don't care about the small details of a good, user-friendly design, don't put it on a generational difference. Millennials can be as brilliant and meticulous as any generation before.

I care about small details of a good, user-friendly design; I just don’t agree with you about what exactly that is.

Smash is just fine as the nomenclature for the knob/jack’s function. And the manual clearly states that it functions similarly to a wave folder but is actually a modulus-function algorithm that manipulates the waveforms. I am positive of this (<- math joke about modulus-functions). The non-traditional nomenclature describes non-traditional functions. And perhaps starts new traditions for labeling modulus-function algorithm knobs/jacks.

All of the above will be moot for most younger generations (and more adaptable people from older generations) because they will go online and check out videos of NE modules which clearly demonstrate each knob/jack/function. They will see the knob turn and hear the result. The “smash” will be self evident and easily accepted.

I own three (plus an expander) NE Eurorack modules. I think the jagged graphics are unattractive but they have never interfered with my understanding or use of the modules. The 5u versions however look great and have a user-friendly interface. They are perfect for what 5u needs these days - innovation that nods to the past without getting bogged down by it.

[Thorsday]

@MrNezumi... I'm not a Boomer. I'm a Millenial. I think the latest incarnations of Krisp1 and Corsynth have gotten on par with STG Soundlabs, Moon Modular, and Happy Nerding in representing the standard for modern Moog Unit/5U panel esthetics. I wish all the manufacturers went away from powder coat, and Noise Engineering also needs to mask the sides...

[oldgearguy]

@MrNezumi... I'm not a Boomer. I'm a Millenial. I think the latest incarnations of Krisp1 and Corsynth have gotten on par with STG Soundlabs, Moon Modular, and Happy Nerding in representing the standard for modern Moog Unit/5U panel esthetics. I wish all the manufacturers went away from powder coat, and Noise Engineering also needs to mask the sides...

Funny - I have selected modules for my system based on the sound. Any looks/labeling difference between manufacturers haven't been a consideration.
I have 4 NE modules and until I read the "mask the sides" comment, I never noticed that about those 4, or if I did, it never registered as a difference/issue. I had to get up and look at my system to see it.

I will say that layout/ergonomics of 5U (versus my foray into Euro) is what I like given my larger hands/fingers so modules that cram too much into a 1U or 2U panel are less desirable versus any particular labeling.

[Thorsday]

I have Cursus and Ataraxic. I bought them in spite of looks...

[oldgearguy]

I have Cursus and Ataraxic. I bought them in spite of looks...

I have those as well. If you like them, I highly recommend the Basimilus.

[Thorsday]

I had Basimilus... I sold for more Crank. Seriously. Euro manufacturers attenuator pots are as profound as Mesa//Boogie active EQ.

[Freaky Steve]

people always look at me weird when I say I don't like euro panel conventions even with noise engineering stuff, but this is a great example. What the heck is a SMASH input? What a worthless label. The label should convey the function. Let's see what the manual says? Hmm...

Screen Shot 2020-11-23 at 6.18.37 PM.png

Oh, it's all so clear now...

... what the hells the matter with you son? .... everybody knows what ~smash~ is .... god yer stoopid.

I like how he picks the smash button to make fun of when it has a knob called profundity.

[Sugarfree]

I bought Manis and Basimilus despite the looks but replaced the ugly knobs. Do you remember, that the NE original panel design was even more... "different". They don't sell it anymore.

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[Sugarfree]

@MrNezumi... I'm not a Boomer. I'm a Millenial. I think the latest incarnations of Krisp1 and Corsynth have gotten on par with STG Soundlabs, Moon Modular, and Happy Nerding in representing the standard for modern Moog Unit/5U panel esthetics. I wish all the manufacturers went away from powder coat, and Noise Engineering also needs to mask the sides...

Funny - I have selected modules for my system based on the sound. Any looks/labeling difference between manufacturers haven't been a consideration.
I have 4 NE modules and until I read the "mask the sides" comment, I never noticed that about those 4, or if I did, it never registered as a difference/issue. I had to get up and look at my system to see it.

I will say that layout/ergonomics of 5U (versus my foray into Euro) is what I like given my larger hands/fingers so modules that cram too much into a 1U or 2U panel are less desirable versus any particular labeling.

The masked sides in 5U serve a practical purpose. They mark the beginning and end of panels, which matters on-stage in poor lighting conditions.