Case Recommendations for Serge Systems

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Case Recommendations for Serge Systems

Post by wavecircle » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:43 am

Hey folks,

I ordered the Thon 8U case from Thomann but it is impractical to pop the case up once it is racked up with 2 Serge panels so I have sent it back. I do like to patch at an angle rather than flat.

Does anyone have any good recommendations for portable cases for a 2 panel Serge system? Pop up style mixer cases are fine, European ordering preferred.
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Post by ear ear » Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:13 am

How deep are the boats? What was impractical about the case you had?

I've got my two Ian Fritz panels in 3" boats mounted in an 8U pop-up mixer case from Flightcase Warehouse. Web page here.
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Post by osc1899 » Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:50 am

I am using the SKB 12U pop up mixer case.

http://www.skbcases.com/music/products/ ... c=120&s=81

It can hold up 3 boats so you have space left for more.. Altough it is a quite chunky case it did the job very well acting as a decent flight case for my trip abroad.

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Post by a100user » Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:00 am

If you don't need to travel (or often at least) go wood.

You define the working angle and looks great too.

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Post by muncky » Fri Aug 07, 2015 2:24 am

Another satisfied Lamond customer - tho mine is still being born

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Post by wavecircle » Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:16 am

Thank you chaps!

The problem with the one I ordered was that you couldn't pop the case up once it was loaded, there were no handles so had to be wedged out. Also, there wasn't enough clearance to let the case pop up fully. I could have forced it but then my panels would have been scraping up against the case. I think Flightcase Warehouse and SKB are good suggestions. I'd prefer 8U at the moment but I guess 12U will just tempt me into getting an Animate sooner rather than later.
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Post by sensanalog » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:11 pm

I’m about to pick up 2-3 serge panels, and if things go well I might pick up a fourth. Are the 12u pop up mixers the best option for the studio and portability? Has anyone designed anything interesting they felt like worked well?

I like the pop up mixers but just curious if anyone has other option, especially for 4 panel systems?

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... mixer-case

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Post by lasesentaysiete » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:42 pm

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I have this 12u case from Thomann:
https://www.thomann.de/es/thon_19_koffer_12_he_live.htm

I thought it would be the most practical solution, but its really heavy. If I were to do it over, especially for 4 panels, I would build my own case. I think the briefcase style design with 2 halves that you see in Eurorack all the time would be best for portability. Something like this:
https://reverb.com/uk/item/6217629-mono ... -12v-360hp

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Post by wavecircle » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:19 am

I bought a 10U Thon case in the end and while it works, it's not the best solution.
It is heavy, cumbersome and you can not carry it patched. I agree with lasesentaysiete, have a case made.
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Post by emenel » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:39 pm

I would love if you could still get a case like this:

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And I think I've seem some side-opening briefcase style Serge cases in videos over the years...

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Post by sensanalog » Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:45 pm

Thanks for the reply folks! My plan is to contact a couple of the eurorack case manufacturers who make 12u foldable cases and see if anyone would be willing to do a custom case. I know monorocket has done some custom cases in the past but not sure if they are still producing cases. I will report back if I hear anything.

If that doesn't pan out, I'll probably just go with the pop up mixer case. I do have a friend who is a carpenter and possibly he could come up with something, but we will see.

If other people have opinions or experience, I'd love to hear from you.

Thanks again!

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Post by chiavere » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:45 pm

@sensanalog - any update on the custom travel option? I'm looking too!

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Post by cheapmachines » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:22 am

emenel wrote:I would love if you could still get a case like this:

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And I think I've seem some side-opening briefcase style Serge cases in videos over the years...
Pretty sure that's a repurposed Halliburton case... I think Rex at STS used to offer or recommend the Zero Centurion Elite but hopefully someone might be able to chime in here and confirm that.

New they cost a small fortune and much cheaper to get something made, they do turn up on evilBay if you keep an eye out.

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Post by gigasturtz » Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:03 pm

I would imagine captnapalm might be able to help guide someone interested in building a Halliburton case like that for Serge.

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Post by groovar » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:25 pm

i would love to know if any wood makers are in the US. I tried Goike for about a year and nothing came of it. I have a local shop I can use if anyone has something I can give them. Lamond looks far away

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Post by FatRocky » Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:07 am

I’m going to build a mono rocket style case (no power as I’m using the external Konstant lab brick) to house two xl Random Source boats

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Post by revtor » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:51 am

Decent woodworking guy should be able to come up with a simple frame to hold the panels that hinges at the bottom, this mounts into a shallow box with a removable cover. Can be very simple, or as fancy as you want.

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Post by emenel » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:26 am

I’m currently designing a set of 2 boat cheeks that screw into the rack ears mounting holes. These would attach two boats together to make an 8u single unit.

I’m considering a few ideas right now

- making the cheeks deeper than the boats so that two 8u units can stack or be hinged together from the side

- finding a pelican case that is large enough to hold two 8u units stacked for easy transport, even though you’d have to remove them to play. The biggest down side is that they can’t be transported patched

Previously I’ve tried pop up style mixer racks, but they are too bulky and there’s a lot of wasted table space behind them when they’re popped up.

I also talked to some local builders about doing a flight case style “suitcase”, but the cost and weight make it less appealing.

The Zero cases are really nice, but again pretty bulky when it’s setup to play in a table.

I realized that what I really want is a way to attach two boats together so I can put them in stands (like small guitar stands on the table top) for easy playing, and then some way to transport them safely. Those don’t need to be the same thing.

I’m going to get a couple test sets of cheeks laser cut out of plywood and acrylic to see what works best.

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Post by revtor » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:31 am

When you say “travel with”, do you mean trust with airline handlers? Or do you mean put in your trunk and drive to your buddies house? Because depending on that the design is going to be different.
Serge boats are pretty rugged because of the density of knobs and overall light weight. A form fitting padded bag is probably enough if you are going to be handling these during traveling. Once you move up to trusting others, I would definitely have a hardshell case.
I like the idea of pulling them out and using a guitar stand or music stand to hold them that sounds pretty sweet. I have mine in a wooden case and while the beautify is undeniable, it is definitely not fun to move around. Definitely a studio synth.

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Post by emenel » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:10 am

I’m more talking about in a car or a train then as checked baggage. Although with the right padding and a pelican case it could probably be checked.

I just haven’t seen anything that feels like it’s good for transport and for playing. I figure having two 8u units is nice for playing, then I can put them in a secure case for moving them or whatever.

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Re: Case Recommendations for Serge Systems

Post by blw » Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:44 pm

I picked up an Animoo and am hoping to add a TKB soon. Does anyone have a fresh take on cases for Serge? I'd love something fitted like the STS M-Case, though perhaps something a little more durable. The 8U Flightcase Warehouse case looks cool, too, but I wonder if anyone knows a supplier of something similar in the US? Might end up making wood ends and hunting a padded case, but a little suitcase would be really sweet.

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Re: Case Recommendations for Serge Systems

Post by pixelmechanic » Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:13 pm

Not shallow (something like 22cm in the base, from memory), but this was only £41!!

It's a Gorilla DJ GC-TT, sturdy enough for my needs, keeps it protected in the car or for some light travelling on trains, but I'll admit I'm a bit worried about the latches.

As the base is much deeper than I need, I've got about an inch and a bit of pick foam underneath. It's wedged in with a little bit more foam.

Lid is deep enough I can stack cables 2 deep with ease.

BTW, if you're wondering, I've lx taped my 4x4 modules into a shallow STS case since the screw points don't match! Will remedy this soon with an R*S case.
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RoadReady make an 8u lighting case that might also work....
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Re: Case Recommendations for Serge Systems

Post by blw » Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:54 pm

That Gorilla is a bit deeper than I might like, but all that foam is a nice plus for shock absorption.

That Roadready case looks good, too. Not sure of its depth:
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Re: Case Recommendations for Serge Systems

Post by FatRocky » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:54 pm

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Re: Case Recommendations for Serge Systems

Post by cleaninglady » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:31 pm

I've built 9 x Full panels of CGS/Serge since 2011 but have never actually mounted them in a a single case.

I build everything into the standard BUD Industries AC-423 Boats then just power them either individually or by connecting through XLR power connectors.
Although it's not a single case, it make for easy and quick changing of panels into different configurations.The dimensions of the AC-423 are 17" x 7" x3", which is the standard Serge 4U panel size for a full panel. The 3" depth has always been enough to mount any CGS/Serge PCB's.

More recently, I have been powering my Voice Panels individually using a DC wall wart into Elmegil's (Pete Hartman) power PCB's that use the Meanwell NSD10-12D12 which puts out +12.-12 and can deal with up to 400mA current draw. A cost effective and very lightweight solution, perfect for me as I travel a lot to play gigs.When I travel I put the single panel into an old power tool case I found in a skip that is the perfect size for one panel.

I tend to only perform on a single panel, I have always been this way. Maybe one day I'll do some multi panel gigs...
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