New Doepfer A-157 Trigger sequencer...

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New Doepfer A-157 Trigger sequencer...

Post by qu.one » Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:13 am

Nothing short of a good light show.... Looks like 8 trigs, clock in, reset and start/stop in. Quad AD is right next to it.

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Post by stepwriterun » Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:22 pm

Looks cool to me but Doepfer hasn't posted any details about the 157 on their News page yet.

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Post by Johnisfaster » Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:25 pm

Awesome! All it really needs is different lengths and resets per row, which I highly doubt it has. But still looks awesome.

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Post by Low-Gain » Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:28 pm

thats a lot of trigs. I'd buy that for :75:

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lots of programmable clocks! just need a couple sequential switches. :)

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Post by Kodama » Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:37 pm

Hopefully it will have more clock inputs in the final version!

Looks like it is in early alpha stage, which may mean lots of time and maybe room to grow.

I think Dieter takes user feedback very seriously, several products are based on just a few votes on their Yahoo group.

So- if you have ideas for what looks like it could be a great module, I would shoot some messages at the Doepfer Yahoo group:

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/
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Post by demorgan » Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:12 pm

Still want that 142-4. When?

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Post by frozenkore » Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:22 pm

demorgan wrote:Still want that 142-4. When?

:despair:
+1

And A-143-4.

This A-157 looks pretty damn cool though.
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Post by qu.one » Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:29 pm

Johnisfaster wrote:Awesome! All it really needs is different lengths and resets per row, which I highly doubt it has. But still looks awesome.
that would be really awesome.

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Post by NV » Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:54 pm

I remember seeing this floating around from last year's NAMM back in January 2010, so it's been in this state for over a year now along with a number of his other prototypes.

Doepfer's really got his stuff together compared to plenty of other manufacturers, but it seems to take him quite awhile to go from prototype to production.

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Post by Denis Goekdag » Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:55 am

Dieter mentioned that the trigger sequencer will have a separate clock and reset input for each group of four rows, the inputs of the first block being normaled to the inputs of the second block. So you can have one 8-track or two four-track trigger sequencers.

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Post by sawcloud » Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:34 pm

seems it could be very cool with the metasonix d-1000...looking forward to it

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Post by thiagozt » Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:28 am

what happened to this? any news?
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Post by youkon » Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:22 am

I recently met dieter for an a-100 workshop here in town.
first, I must say: very kind person, understands to patch his modular very quickly :-D
a a-100 only system sounds really great!!!


the trigger sequencer is only the prototype!

IT WILL HAVE 16 STEPS!!!!

he wanted to do 2 clocks, I said: WE NEED MORE :hihi:
and I said, make a breakout with more options or even the ability for everyone to make its own breakout.
He himself thinks about a little and a big breakout module... we'll see.
He's open for what the people want, so tell him, what you need :tu:

there will be the possibility of pattern storing. this is very important to him


what I can say by now: it's a fucking great lightshow in your modular!!!!
estimated price: under! 400 euro :-D yay

z8000 will have a big friend, soon :nana:

I think, he was talking about end of the year


Doepfer rocks, no doubt!
now, after having listened to, I also wan a a-100 only system :yay:

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Post by nrdvrgr » Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:28 am

As mentioned previously in this thread I think that there are some very interesting new modules coming from Doepfer, but it takes so goddamn long to get them released... this trigger thing, the quad LFO/VCO, the quad AD (which is actually out now!) are all fantastic modules.
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Post by selfoscillate » Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:19 am

youkon wrote: he wanted to do 2 clocks, I said: WE NEED MORE :hihi:
and I said, make a breakout with more options or even the ability for everyone to make its own breakout.
He himself thinks about a little and a big breakout module... we'll see.
He's open for what the people want, so tell him, what you need :tu:

there will be the possibility of pattern storing. this is very important to him

what I can say by now: it's a fucking great lightshow in your modular!!!!
estimated price: under! 400 euro :-D yay
i guess not for under 400 if you want 8x clock, start/stopp and reset,
pattern storing and stuff. everything eight times seems like overkill
and completely misses the point of the module. it would mean
18 more jacks, 12 more momentary switches and a massive
price increase. the a157 was intended to be similar to an
808 sequencer, simple, fast and intuitive. it was not intended to
be a full schaltwerk 2. but some people tend to want every single
option without realizing what that means for the price, development
and the workflow of the final product. if you ask me, the original plan
with just two clock inputs makes much more sense. i have used the
prototype of the a157 for many months, but that was two years ago
and the module will never be finished if users keep on trying to
force dieter to change an already great design every few months.

just my 2 cents of course.

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Post by selfoscillate » Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:31 am

nrdvrgr wrote:the quad LFO/VCO
i'm actually testing a modified early prototype of the a143/4.
soon the final prototype will be built and then things
will move forward more quickly. i already like the early
prototype a lot, but the final version will be even better.
you will be able to use it as a four vco bank with 1v/oct tracking
of about 5 octaves, that makes 4 vco's for approximately 200 euros.
but it will also feature very very slow cycles (probably longer than
half an hour per cycle if you wish).

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Post by youkon » Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:52 am

he wants to keep it simple and realize things like that via breakout. a tiny one and perhaps a big one... something like this. but nothing is final, yet.
I believe in the price
don't get scared. you know doepfer. he's down to earth :-D

and, you know... everyone uses modules on his own way... for some, 2 clocks is much enough, for some not
doepfer will do the right thing...

I'd want 4 clocks for sure... I'm fine with one reset
and shuffle, direction etc via breakout... what's wrong with this?

selfoscillate wrote:
i guess not for under 400 if you want 8x clock, start/stopp and reset,
pattern storing and stuff. everything eight times seems like overkill
and completely misses the point of the module. it would mean
18 more jacks, 12 more momentary switches and a massive
price increase. the a157 was intended to be similar to an
808 sequencer, simple, fast and intuitive. it was not intended to
be a full schaltwerk 2. but some people tend to want every single
option without realizing what that means for the price, development
and the workflow of the final product. if you ask me, the original plan
with just two clock inputs makes much more sense. i have used the
prototype of the a157 for many months, but that was two years ago
and the module will never be finished if users keep on trying to
force dieter to change an already great design every few months.

just my 2 cents of course.

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Post by annex03 » Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:39 am

I really like the great big one Moon Modular has, that would be the heart of my systemic I could get it in Euro, would love to be able to chain two 16 steppers together via ribbon on the back, a break out would be good but I wouldn't be keen on storing anything, just my 2cents.

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Post by Dirk95100 » Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:25 am

I need:
4 rows.
Of 8 steps (but 16 would be nice to)
Every row with a switch to change clock divisions.
Reset on every row.

And most importantly: It must be playable. So keep it big.

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Post by thiagozt » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:50 am

I really think there's a huge space for manufacturers to develop trigger sequencers ( only trigger, no knobs please). Moon modular has 2 great trigger sequencer modules but there's absolutely nothing like it in Euro format -ok, maybe the STG system stuff, but I can't afford 4 modules to have a 4X16 trigger sequencer (and they're vertical) - that's why I got a MFB SEQ ( cheap and small), which would likely be replaced with a A-157 if it has 16 steps and holds 8 tracks...
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Post by selfoscillate » Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:49 am

youkon wrote:he wants to keep it simple and realize things like that via breakout. a tiny one and perhaps a big one... something like this. but nothing is final, yet.
I believe in the price
don't get scared. you know doepfer. he's down to earth :-D
i know that he is down to earth, but that has no impact
on development and production costs. it is as expensive as
it is, if you have a huge panel and lots of controls.
youkon wrote: and, you know... everyone uses modules on his own way... for some, 2 clocks is much enough, for some not
doepfer will do the right thing...
yes, i agree and i'm sure that dieter will do
the right thing for the majority of users.
youkon wrote: I'd want 4 clocks for sure... I'm fine with one reset
and shuffle, direction etc via breakout... what's wrong with this?
there is nothing wrong with this. sorry if my previous
post sounded a bit harsh, was not intentional.
dieter told me that on that particular meeting he
also got suggestions about clock input, reset, direction
and shuffle for each of the eight rows independently and
somehow i thought thats what you'd want too. sorry.
anyway this shows how many suggestions he actually gets,
some of them a bit too ambitious maybe.

since the a157 has no built-in clock, there
were no plans to include shuffle in the first place.
shouldn't it be the clock that shuffles?

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Post by felixer » Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:55 pm

NV wrote:Doepfer's really got his stuff together compared to plenty of other manufacturers, but it seems to take him quite awhile to go from prototype to production.
maybe there is a connection here :mrgreen:
he's not using paying customers as guinypigs: you get what you pay for. maybe that's oldfashioned, but i really appriciate it :tu:
don't need midi, don't need keys, just want knobs and cables (all together now ;-)

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Post by rico loverde » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:50 pm

any news on this at all? was Doepfer at NAMM?
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Post by SYN7HOR » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:05 pm

Very interested in this...

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