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New Mutable Ripples

Post by xcc » Thu May 28, 2020 3:27 pm

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This looks awesome. Two inputs, one with a drive control:

https://mutable-instruments.net/modules/ripples/

"Ripples is a classic, big-sounding analog four-pole filter in a small 8-HP package. Over the years it has earned its reputation as a no-fuss, elegant choice.

Ripples has two input paths: one with a drive control, allowing the signal to be distorted (or providing enough gain for the processing of line-level signals), and the other totally transparent, preserving Ripples mkI’s clean-sounding character.

Three filter modes are available: high-pass, band-pass, and low-pass. The slope (2 or 4 poles) of the band-pass and low-pass outputs is switchable.

Self-oscillation is available for all modes and produces a clean sine-wave on the low-pass output. Unlike many classic 4-pole designs, this filter does not suffer from “loudness drop” when resonance is increased. The resonance loudness compensation circuit brings a slight tone coloration reminiscent of Japanese classics from the 80s, with a very round and liquid resonance.

The low-pass output goes through an internal VCA. This makes Ripples a good final stage module for an inexpensive, or space-constrained, subtractive synthesis synth voice."

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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by Shakespeare » Thu May 28, 2020 3:31 pm

Looks sweet! And different enough from the current Ripples that you wouldn't necessarily mind having both in a rack. Not a purchase for me, since I have the OG and don't have room for another filter... but I'm glad to see more from MI.

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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by mdoudoroff » Thu May 28, 2020 3:32 pm

Good to see signs of life at MI!

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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by corbetta » Thu May 28, 2020 3:35 pm

well damn

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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by ATW » Thu May 28, 2020 3:39 pm

mdoudoroff wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 3:32 pm
Good to see signs of life at MI!
Amen!

Ripples is a staple in many patches, curious to hear how the overdrive on this new one sounds.

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Post by zerodivide » Thu May 28, 2020 3:47 pm

I'm just about to buy a new filter too, so this certainly has to be added to my possibility list

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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by NeolithicElectrophones » Thu May 28, 2020 3:49 pm

xcc wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 3:27 pm
(or providing enough gain for the processing of line-level signals)
Wow! This is a fantastic addition to an already great filter. Thanks for the heads up.

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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by zerodivide » Thu May 28, 2020 3:50 pm

wait what happened to the FM knob?

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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by ATW » Thu May 28, 2020 3:55 pm

zerodivide wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 3:50 pm
wait what happened to the FM knob?
I noticed that, too. Maybe it's a 'kill your darlings' move, in the name of the new features, while keeping it the same size—vs. just packing more UI in.

Also gives folks with OG Ripples something to hold on to. I'd almost rather get a 2nd Ripples than swap the OG one out.

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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by zerodivide » Thu May 28, 2020 4:03 pm

oh nevermind its there but as a smaller attenuverter knob

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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by apcuddling » Thu May 28, 2020 4:17 pm

Can't wait to check this one out. I too am in the boat of having both the new and OG Ripples. Comparing the two is going to be fun.

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Post by sempervirent » Thu May 28, 2020 4:22 pm

Looks like a pretty solid redesign that maintains the original hp width. An attenuator for RES is conspicuously absent, considering that VC resonance can get pretty wild and that there appears to be panel space (but maybe there was simply no room left on the PCB).

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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by steviet » Thu May 28, 2020 4:27 pm

This is great to see! It looks like Shades got an update as well. Very promising, I'd love to see MI back in the lab.
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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by xcc » Thu May 28, 2020 4:32 pm

sempervirent wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 4:22 pm
Looks like a pretty solid redesign that maintains the original hp width. An attenuator for RES is conspicuously absent, considering that VC resonance can get pretty wild and that there appears to be panel space (but maybe there was simply no room left on the PCB).
Yeah that's a bummer about the resonance attenuverter. I think I could deal with it though considering the other enhancements. This may be worth upgrading/replacing my beloved OG Ripples.

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Post by starthief » Thu May 28, 2020 5:16 pm

Well, now I don't have to be so careful not to photograph that section of my modular... I've been beta testing this for a while. However, I never had the original version of Ripples to compare to.

The drive is a nice feature. Adding a lot of drive to the input gives the sound more roundness, a little more weight to push through the resonance, if that makes sense.

You can also self-patch using the second input, which changes the resonance characteristics -- either cancelling it or enhancing it, depending on the slope switch and the output that you feed back in.

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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by mrhooks » Thu May 28, 2020 6:00 pm

I like the addition of a second input. If the module were 6HP, I'd consider replacing my HN VCF with it. At 8HP, I could just add a 2hp Mix to the HN, although I wouldn't be able to have separate clean and driven inputs.

Overall, a very nice redesign. Although I kinda miss the colored knobs.
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Post by zerodivide » Thu May 28, 2020 6:48 pm

edit: nm its on the website. Curve switch applies to BP and LP , but not HP

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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by gonkulator » Thu May 28, 2020 6:52 pm

mdoudoroff wrote:
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Good to see signs of life at MI!
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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by zerodivide » Thu May 28, 2020 6:52 pm

xcc wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 4:32 pm
sempervirent wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 4:22 pm
Looks like a pretty solid redesign that maintains the original hp width. An attenuator for RES is conspicuously absent, considering that VC resonance can get pretty wild and that there appears to be panel space (but maybe there was simply no room left on the PCB).
Yeah that's a bummer about the resonance attenuverter. I think I could deal with it though considering the other enhancements. This may be worth upgrading/replacing my beloved OG Ripples.
wait where was that one the old one?
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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by xcc » Thu May 28, 2020 6:54 pm

starthief wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 5:16 pm
Well, now I don't have to be so careful not to photograph that section of my modular... I've been beta testing this for a while. However, I never had the original version of Ripples to compare to.

The drive is a nice feature. Adding a lot of drive to the input gives the sound more roundness, a little more weight to push through the resonance, if that makes sense.

You can also self-patch using the second input, which changes the resonance characteristics -- either cancelling it or enhancing it, depending on the slope switch and the output that you feed back in.
Can you expand on the drive? Like what would you compare it to?

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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by wminor » Thu May 28, 2020 7:10 pm

OG Ripples was my first Eurorack filter. I've been through many others since, but I'll never sell it. Can definitely imagine myself grabbing one of the new ones to have along side it, or maybe swap in / out as the mood takes me. I have started enjoying having pairs of modules that are the same HP and fill the same role that I can easily swap in / out without having to rethink the rest of the rack recently - e.g. E352 and Shapeshifter.
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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by starthief » Thu May 28, 2020 7:15 pm

xcc wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 6:54 pm
Can you expand on the drive? Like what would you compare it to?
I'm not sure what it's similar to (this is the first Euro filter I've had with intentional drive built in, as opposed to not as nice clipping), but here's a comparison of a sine through Ripples with full drive and lowpass fully open (green trace), vs. the same full drive in Tallin with the switch centered:
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and a saw:
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I'm not sure what makes it asymmetrical when fed a sine wave; maybe someone with more knowledge about distortion could speak to that.
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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by Gringo Starr » Thu May 28, 2020 8:46 pm

mdoudoroff wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 3:32 pm
Good to see signs of life at MI!
Indeed!!!!

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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by greyscales » Thu May 28, 2020 9:04 pm

Looks like a nice clean design, not that the old design was bad by any means.

I'll need to listen to demos to see how the drive compares to the Intellijel Polaris. Could be interesting to see a side by side demo. They have a lot of similar features now.

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Re: New Mutable Ripples

Post by bemushroomed » Thu May 28, 2020 9:46 pm

Good to see some stuff from MI, imo one of the more important eurorack designers out there when it comes to innovation.

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