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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by medium Rob » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:28 am

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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by beatcleaver » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:48 am

Whatever happens this is sure to have an effect on the euro market. They're quite fully featured modules for $50-100. Double VCO, Double VCF, Phaser+Audio Delay etc.

Also it has to be said that most of these are available in the Malekko/Roland Series 500 stuff too.

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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by galaxie » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:58 am

Divinital wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:07 am
RIP the boutique industry.

I read $35/module, not sure if true.
IMHO the market of DIY utiliy modules is likely to suffer most. The current Eurorack market is a bit too crowded with average products and now Behringer comes to cleaning.

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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by bemushroomed » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:10 pm

"BEHRINGER
1 hour ago
Quick update on the prices: between 49 and 99 US$ per module."
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Behringer Derangement Syndrome is real folks.
Indeed...

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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by ckwjr » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:17 pm

quad gate, 6 channels of buffered multiples for less than $100. I'd buy that in a heartbeat.

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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by pyrolator » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:21 pm

"305 is an output module a four-band parametric EQ, a 4-channel mixer, line and separate headphone output and even a tuning oscillator"
looks interesting
172 module delivers a 6-step phase-shifter, an analog delay, an LFO and a gate delay
could be good as well... (the phaser of the old Roland sounds really good)

all the other are kind of dated....

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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by Muff McMuff » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:24 pm

mulder wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:17 am
dubnspace wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:15 am
they had previously said $49-$99 a module, but that was in 2018...
$100 modules would be appropriate :hyper:
$49-$99 has been posted by Behringer in the youtube comments of that NAMM 2020 video at the start of the thread.

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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by dopefiend » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:36 pm

Next year they will have the CS-80 clone for $599, and they’ll throw in speakers and a beer.
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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by ObsoleteModular » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:37 pm

I might start a side business of spraying over the Behringer logo and stencilling Roland in its place

Everyone's happy then. :lol:

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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by blw » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:41 pm

ObsoleteModular wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:37 pm
I might start a side business of spraying over the Behringer logo and stencilling Roland in its place
Funny enough, $35 alt panels for $99 modules is probably a legit business opportunity.
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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by Synthacon » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:41 pm

Cracking price point.

The original 100M was a cheap gateway in to, what was a dwindling modular market place, and these are similar in that they are cheap and will be well received by many.

Let’s hope they work well, lots of little niggles on their synths.
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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by Licudi » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:43 pm

galaxie wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:58 am
IMHO the market of DIY utiliy modules is likely to suffer most.
Could well be right, though some of these look to be around 16-20HP.

Very different from the mockups posted on ModularGrid, FWIW.

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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by Synthacon » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:53 pm

Licudi wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:43 pm

Very different from the mockups posted on ModularGrid, FWIW.
The output module is certainly bigger and better spec’d
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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by Licudi » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:55 pm

Synthacon wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:53 pm
The output module is certainly bigger and better spec’d
I wonder what the depth is? Given Behringer's 104-skiff is so shallow.

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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by medium Rob » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:57 pm

dubnspace wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:18 am
Behringer Derangement Syndrome is real folks.
Yes, utterly deranged. Thank you

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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by KittenVillage » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:57 pm

ObsoleteModular wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:37 pm
I might start a side business of spraying over the Behringer logo and stencilling Roland in its place

Everyone's happy then. :lol:
The alternate panel market is about to take off.


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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by EPTC » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:08 pm

medium Rob wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:57 pm
dubnspace wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:18 am
Behringer Derangement Syndrome is real folks.
Yes, utterly deranged. Thank you
or ethically engaged, depends on your choice of words.

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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by cat_abyss » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:11 pm

I get that behringer mass producing cheap stuff is an inevitability, but it leaves a sour aftertaste that it's always someone elses work originally. Make your own modules, dammit.
Also not a big fan of the size, OR the multiple sub-modules per module. A lot of these could be broken into three 8hp modules or something. At least they could've done that.

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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by Yes Powder » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:16 pm

Boutique companies aren't about to go away. At least none that weren't on their way out in a few years already...

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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by ckwjr » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:27 pm

cat_abyss wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:11 pm
I get that behringer mass producing cheap stuff is an inevitability, but it leaves a sour aftertaste that it's always someone elses work originally. Make your own modules, dammit.
Also not a big fan of the size, OR the multiple sub-modules per module. A lot of these could be broken into three 8hp modules or something. At least they could've done that.
The arbitrary combination of sub-modules is an endearing feature. The Roland System 500 combinations are slightly different but equally arbitrary.
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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by Agawell » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:47 pm

I'd be tempted to just take the panel off, sand/dremel the paint off and/or paint over it / sharpie it and then replace it - the resale value of these modules will be almost non-existent - so who cares if you fuck the panel up - why waste even 1€ on a new panel - just dremel/sand and a sharpie - I can see this taking off!

It'll be interesting to see when they are actually in the stores just how good or bad the modules actually are - they don't have to be fantastic, just do the job and they will sell

Maybe some lower end diy and smaller, less inovative manufacturers may see a hit - but it might work the other way - by creating a bigger market

I suspect they will get a lot of exposure in more mainstream music stores than eurorack generally does, so it may get quite a few people starting out with a Behringer rack full of Behringer modules - but maybe there'll be a few Make Noise/Noise Engineering/Mutable Instruments/whatever modules in there too - maybe also in the mainstream stores, if they see sales of the behringer modules

I know my local smallish chain music store has had a few of the roland/malekko modules and a few patch cables in and they are a behringer dealer- maybe this will encourage them to start stocking more

At this price point they are almost impulse buys - the gate/mult placed at the checkout for when you go in to buy a few patch cables

Anybody know if Behringer are going to do patch cables or power supplies???
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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by cat_abyss » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:47 pm

ckwjr wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:27 pm
cat_abyss wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:11 pm
I get that behringer mass producing cheap stuff is an inevitability, but it leaves a sour aftertaste that it's always someone elses work originally. Make your own modules, dammit.
Also not a big fan of the size, OR the multiple sub-modules per module. A lot of these could be broken into three 8hp modules or something. At least they could've done that.
The arbitrary combination of sub-modules is an endearing feature. The Roland System 500 combinations are slightly different but equally arbitrary.
Ah. Not too familiar with the originals, just glanced it over and they looked the same. My bad. Still sad that they are "clones", though.
And when you phrase it like that... interesting way to force you to get the boring but useful stuff... just staple it to the side to something exciting :hihi:

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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by grillo » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:53 pm

yeah the behringer modules are weird in a similar way to the roland/malekkos. I get that it looks similar to the vintage rolands, but eurorack panels have been mostly organized in a different way so these still look and feel very strange. Probably they want to sell the full set so it has to work in that sense, but still, this once again feels like Behringer just replicating designs from other companies, except in this case they went and copied something that wasn't very succesful or representative of the whole euro scene.

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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by ATW » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:57 pm

From my POV this is a good thing—modular for the people.

Schools/students, people who can't currently afford the space, etc, can now play more. It's also a good thing for listeners out there who will be able to benefit from far more unique instrumentation & sound design possibilities that are more widely available.

This could grow the modular community, and build demand for more interesting modules (instead of clones), more opportunities for makers to win by going more niche, higher quality, more weird, more digital, more open source, more collaborative (i.e. DivkKd's module collabs w/ Befaco and Instruo), more compact, better sounding, more 1U, etc. Racks, cables, components, DIY etc will all feel a bump. So will software companies and indie developers who are bridging the worlds of DAWs/hardware etc.

The Neutron (along with VCV Rack, Reaktor, MaxMsp etc) was my gateway drug to Make Noise, MI, Tall Dog, Joranalogue, TipTop, Intellijel, ALM, Busy Circuits, etc.

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Re: Behringer Roland System 100 clone

Post by slam » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:01 pm

I'm probably going to get one of these systems if they are cheap enough and then I'll be able to slowly expand with higher quality modules.

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