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Post by stephentrask » Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:59 pm

Gbeam wrote:I wish that companies that make Eurorack modules would add a calibration trim to adjust +/- vpp, that way they can all play together nicely
The Verbos oscillators are fairly easy to calibrate.
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Post by Gbeam » Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:47 pm

so is this possible, adjusting the PPV output?

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Post by turin horsey » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:51 pm

Any chance this is going to have a Brains-like expander?

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Post by mdoudoroff » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:14 am

turin horsey wrote:Any chance this is going to have a Brains-like expander?
Probably not. For one thing, there seems to be no LED indicator for the current stage (current step).

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Post by stephentrask » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:34 am

Gbeam wrote:so is this possible, adjusting the PPV output?
The oscillator can be calibrated with a small Philips head screw driver. Next to the attenuverter knob for the "c.v. input" there is a small hole. insert the screw driver in there. When you feel it engaged with the adjustor, turn subtly cw or cow until the oscillator is responding appropriately to keyboard input.
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Post by stephentrask » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:38 am

mdoudoroff wrote:
turin horsey wrote:Any chance this is going to have a Brains-like expander?
Probably not. For one thing, there seems to be no LED indicator for the current stage (current step).
Also, you'd think Mark would have mentioned it in one of the videos.
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Post by Gbeam » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:59 am

Thanks, I meant adjusting the mini horse

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Post by Triglav » Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:13 am

stephentrask wrote:
Gbeam wrote:so is this possible, adjusting the PPV output?
The oscillator can be calibrated with a small Philips head screw driver. Next to the attenuverter knob for the "c.v. input" there is a small hole. insert the screw driver in there. When you feel it engaged with the adjustor, turn subtly cw or cow until the oscillator is responding appropriately to keyboard input.
That's the v/oct calibration. The PPV can't be calibrated with the trimmers.

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Post by stephentrask » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:17 pm

Triglav wrote:
stephentrask wrote:
Gbeam wrote:so is this possible, adjusting the PPV output?
The oscillator can be calibrated with a small Philips head screw driver. Next to the attenuverter knob for the "c.v. input" there is a small hole. insert the screw driver in there. When you feel it engaged with the adjustor, turn subtly cw or cow until the oscillator is responding appropriately to keyboard input.
That's the v/oct calibration. The PPV can't be calibrated with the trimmers.
Oh, got it. My bad. Adjusting PPV is a job for a good utility module.
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Post by Gbeam » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:17 pm

I appreciate the insight. I'm now just waiting for its release.

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Post by stephentrask » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:05 am

Gbeam wrote:I appreciate the insight. I'm now just waiting for its release.

Thank all
Me too, although I'll probably wait for the breakout box.
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Post by 2disbetter » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:33 am

I'm pretty set as far as controller are concerned, but these do look great. I wonder if there is a way to interconnect these for creating 24, 26, 48, etc. keyed versions.

Super expensive, but could be a very powerful controller.

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Post by stephentrask » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:45 pm

2disbetter wrote:I'm pretty set as far as controller are concerned, but these do look great. I wonder if there is a way to interconnect these for creating 24, 26, 48, etc. keyed versions.

Super expensive, but could be a very powerful controller.
I don't think there are going to be any features that aren't yet mentioned. The Verbos Facebook page has a picture of a bunch of these already manufactured. It's hard to think that there are features yet to be mentioned.
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Post by Gbeam » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:09 am

I read end of February for release...

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Post by 2disbetter » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:21 am

stephentrask wrote:I don't think there are going to be any features that aren't yet mentioned. The Verbos Facebook page has a picture of a bunch of these already manufactured. It's hard to think that there are features yet to be mentioned.
I would agree with you, but I'm also pretty sure you'll be able to adjust the voltage that they keys trigger, in which case there is nothing preventing you from setting it up two or more in a larger keyboard configuration like that. Of course they would be broken up by the master section of each mini horse.

Just really fantasizing. A modular modular touch keyboard would be pretty great.

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Post by stephentrask » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:51 am

2disbetter wrote:
stephentrask wrote:I don't think there are going to be any features that aren't yet mentioned. The Verbos Facebook page has a picture of a bunch of these already manufactured. It's hard to think that there are features yet to be mentioned.
I would agree with you, but I'm also pretty sure you'll be able to adjust the voltage that they keys trigger, in which case there is nothing preventing you from setting it up two or more in a larger keyboard configuration like that. Of course they would be broken up by the master section of each mini horse.

Just really fantasizing. A modular modular touch keyboard would be pretty great.
You can definitely adjust the voltage output of each. So, you could use two to control two oscillators. Or you could run two of them together through something like the Sequence Selector with the gate output of each selecting the appropriate controller.
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Post by strangegravity » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:52 pm

nectarios wrote:Can someone explain why something like this, is 600€?
Because it says Verbos on it.

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Post by coolshirtdotjpg » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:21 pm

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nectarios wrote:Can someone explain why something like this, is 600€?
Because it says Verbos on it.
If you can name something in euro with all of these features at all, let alone under that price point than that comment is justified. I personally can't and I'm familiar with almost everything that has come out in the past few years.
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Post by stephentrask » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:37 pm

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strangegravity wrote:
nectarios wrote:Can someone explain why something like this, is 600€?
Because it says Verbos on it.
If you can name something in euro with all of these features at all, let alone under that price point than that comment is justified. I personally can't and I'm familiar with almost everything that has come out in the past few years.
For example, this is the cost of two Tetrapads, more or less.And also of three Renes. They aren't exactly the same but comparable. I would guess that this one will do things for other Verbos modules that are unique to the Mini Horse.
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Post by mdoudoroff » Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:19 am

I like this module a lot on paper, particularly its directness, and I’m sure it works splendidly with Verbos gear, but the more I think about it, having all these sliders fixed at 0-10v would probably frustrate me. I have a mix of modules, many of which only respond to cv within 0-5v, so for those, I would have to add attenuators to the patch or remember to not expect much from the top half of the slider. Also, my recent experience with the excellent ADDAC306 has shown me how useful it is to be able to set the floor and range of throw arbitrarily. (If each slider on the Mini Horse had similar floor and range pots, I might be set.)

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Post by Gbeam » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:32 pm

I hear ya, I have several R*S and other 10v modules, its hard enough to keep track of whats going on in a patch let alone 5-10v parameters

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Post by christie » Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:29 pm

Just got my mini horse and it almost immediately failed.

The fixed and variable outputs output a constant -9.24 volts, regardless of which touchpad or knob setting.

Has anyone else experienced this?

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Post by mritenburg » Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:32 pm

christie wrote:Just got my mini horse and it almost immediately failed.

The fixed and variable outputs output a constant -9.24 volts, regardless of which touchpad or knob setting.

Has anyone else experienced this?
I haven't experienced this specifically with the Mini Horse, however, capacitive touch-plate controllers are extremely sensitive to grounding and power issues. Power supplies with floating ground are especially known to cause problems. What are you using for a power supply and are you sure you are properly grounded?

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Post by christie » Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:14 pm

Intellijel tps30 mini - I've used the same power supply on a Buchla 218e and serge tkb. I'd suspect grounding if I got erratic behavior from the touchpads, but, they all respond properly and I get good outputs for pressure and position. Fixed and variable outputting negative voltage, -9.24 seems like something worse.

I'm returning it, just wondering if I had a bad one and should swap or if it is widespread.

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Post by Voggg » Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:00 pm

Mini Horse has been out for a while. If you have one, how do you like it?

Is the custom case for it available yet?

Any idea if it would it have issues with the power in a 4MS Pod?

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