Eurorack Sequencer - Techno Leads

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Eurorack Sequencer - Techno Leads

Post by Steverido » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:49 am

Hi Guys,

I am just getting into Modular and was wondering what you would recommned as a sequencer (Eurorack) for making interesting Techno leads. Or Percussive Techno stuff for that matter.

I have just got the Abstract Data Octocontroller too.

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Post by lasesentaysiete » Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:15 am

turing machine is fast & fun for that :tu:

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Post by Tumulishroomaroom » Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:22 am

I'm using a Voltage Block. It's not incredible if you want to write a full fledged long melody but works perfectly for short leads (which you can tweak as well with the in regards of steps number, sequence direction and arp). It's of course incredible for modulation.

For more percussive stuff I really like to trigger enveloppes (say a Quadra) with a Numeric Repetitor and/or a Knights Gallop (which is way more hands on). You can quickly get great rhythmic techno patterns without melodies with this when you use the enveloppe to modulate parameters around your modular (oscillators timbre, filter cutoff etc...)

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Post by Steverido » Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:28 am

lasesentaysiete wrote:turing machine is fast & fun for that :tu:
Is that the Music Thing Modular? There is a version 1 & 2.

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Post by Tumulishroomaroom » Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:58 am

That's the one. You'll also need a quantizer if you go with this as it does not output quantized cv. Mk2 is the most recent one. There's also the Mimetic Sequent by Noise Engineering that is very interesting and close to the principles of the Turing machine.

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Post by Steverido » Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:21 pm

Has anyone got experience of the Kilpatrick K-4815 sequencer?

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Post by mattsb » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:29 pm

2HP TM + uScale are my go to in the vein of what has been discussed so far.

But I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Metropolis yet.

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Post by euromorcego » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:50 pm

mattsb wrote: But I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Metropolis yet.
ok, i'll do: metropolis, definitely, instant techno leads. Very intuitive, just move the sliders until you like what you hear. And with the newer software it got even better (memory, ratchets).

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Post by Abston » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:37 am

Orthogonal devices ER 101 (Approx 600$) or Winter Modular Eloquencer are awesome for writing long and complex melodies.
If you want something more affordable and simple, would recommand the Make Noise René coupled with a Pressure Points in order to control and making your melodies evolve.

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Post by Jaypee » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:12 am

I'd say Metropolis. Simple and fun!

But yeah an ER 101 is another level.
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Post by Steverido » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:57 am

euromorcego wrote:
mattsb wrote: But I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Metropolis yet.
ok, i'll do: metropolis, definitely, instant techno leads. Very intuitive, just move the sliders until you like what you hear. And with the newer software it got even better (memory, ratchets).
I am looking at this one although it is quite expensive. I guess you get what you pay for.

I like the Metropolis layout and it looks relatively easy to use. I really want something that does not require loads of menu diving.

After all, it is suppossed to be fun. :)
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Post by Steverido » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:57 am

Jaypee wrote:I'd say Metropolis. Simple and fun!

But yeah an ER 101 is another level.
Looks too complicated for me. Perhaps when I have got over the learning curve.

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Post by Steverido » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:59 am

euromorcego wrote:
mattsb wrote: But I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Metropolis yet.
ok, i'll do: metropolis, definitely, instant techno leads. Very intuitive, just move the sliders until you like what you hear. And with the newer software it got even better (memory, ratchets).
This is my favourite so far. Thanks.

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Post by strawberry » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:50 am

metropolis +1

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Post by calvinsomething » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:04 am

The Varigate 8+ and 4+ can both do up to 2 tracks of CV/gate sequencing.

If you don't have something for gate sequencing at the moment the 8+ may be a good option to fill both roles.

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Post by Steverido » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:41 am

calvinsomething wrote:The Varigate 8+ and 4+ can both do up to 2 tracks of CV/gate sequencing.

If you don't have something for gate sequencing at the moment the 8+ may be a good option to fill both roles.
Thanks, I will check them out.

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Post by Steverido » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:43 am

Does anyone have a comparison between Metropolis & Kilpatrick K-4815?

Metropolis looks easier to use and probably most fun.

Kilpatrick have Carbon which is a replacement for K-4815, but is very very expensive.

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Post by Benoua » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:47 am

It s not out yet but i had the opportunity to test the hermod from squarp instrument and it might please you.

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Post by Steverido » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:48 am

Benoua wrote:It s not out yet but i had the opportunity to test the hermod from squarp instrument and it might please you.
That looks quite interesting but not available until end of Feb.

11 YouTube Videos too.

I will look a bit more but Metropolis is winning so far.

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Post by metalbox » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:56 am

Get Metropolis for techno! The K4815 is better for Ambient type stuff

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Post by euromorcego » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:59 am

Steverido wrote:I really want something that does not require loads of menu diving.
it should be said though that the metropolis has some menu diving. At least if you need to adjust some settings (like clock settings and how the reset is handled. And since it only has a led display the abbreviation look a bit cryptic).

However, you do not need the menu to just play it. Then it is incredibly straightforward. Biggest drawback: a lot of hp and money for a single cv/gate output. There are now things like the Eloquencer which have up to 8 channels and similar features (but are all somewhat less intuitive).

Another interesting choice is actually Rene. It is deep but it is actually not really neccesary to fully understand what it does. Rene is surprisingly good at acid lines (there are a few youtube videos) ... more happy accident territory than deliberate programming.

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Post by Steverido » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:17 pm

euromorcego wrote:
Steverido wrote:I really want something that does not require loads of menu diving.
it should be said though that the metropolis has some menu diving. At least if you need to adjust some settings (like clock settings and how the reset is handled. And since it only has a led display the abbreviation look a bit cryptic).

However, you do not need the menu to just play it. Then it is incredibly straightforward. Biggest drawback: a lot of hp and money for a single cv/gate output. There are now things like the Eloquencer which have up to 8 channels and similar features (but are all somewhat less intuitive).

Another interesting choice is actually Rene. It is deep but it is actually not really neccesary to fully understand what it does. Rene is surprisingly good at acid lines (there are a few youtube videos) ... more happy accident territory than deliberate programming.
I don't mind the bit of menu diving to change settings. It is when you need to do that to make music that I shy away. I might as well use a VST. :)

Never been a fan of Rene.

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Post by Steverido » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:18 pm

metalbox wrote:Get Metropolis for techno! The K4815 is better for Ambient type stuff
Thanks for the tip. That is useful to know.

I just missed a Metropolis on Ebay for £380.00 :(

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Post by Futuresound » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:25 pm

I bought a Metropolis to make techno sequences. Made some great techno sequences.

Sold it because it was 'too melodic'. :hmm:

Am now going to buy a Metropolis to make techno sequences.

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Post by 61050 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:35 pm

+1 for the turing machine. techno lines for days. i have a version 1 and it has become indispensable to my workflow. i don't even have a quantizer, doing just fine without one. slightly detuned notes here and there are a bonus for techno anyway, right? :omg:

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