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Post by zerodivide » Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:16 pm

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zerodivide wrote:Did I read earlier in this thread somewhere that later versions of the Verbos CO had a bigger frequency range for the modulation oscillator? or am I dreaming?
Also, it's a bit strange to me how much range of the Mod Osc is unuseable for FM mode. Anybody noticed that? it goes super slow but wish it went much faster than the current range allows
More of a workaround but the FM input takes DC offset so you can push it into higher frequency. It’d be nice if there was a switch or the mod oscillator just had a wider frequency range.
ah good point

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Post by Tumulishroomaroom » Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:27 pm

Tempted again to get the CVP...
I have a Falistri right now that I like but i'm not very taken with the UI. I know the two modules are not immediately comparable but I also have the Pons Asinorum for basic enveloppe duties, so I don't mind "losing" one channel. I'm very curious about this bounce feature and love the Verbos interface.
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Post by stephentrask » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:26 pm

The slimmed down ATC is now for sale at Schneidersladen.
285€ before VAT.
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Post by stephentrask » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:32 pm

Also The 48hp case for the mini horse. That’s 155€ and about an inch deep, comparable pricewise to the 4MS Pod48 case.
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Post by Tumulishroomaroom » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:33 pm

339 after... 8-)
just 20€ less than V1. Schneiders says it sounds a bit different.

Also, this just appeared :

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It is based on the same discrete transistor core as the other Verbos oscillators. In addition to outputs for the Square and Triangle waves directly from the core, there is a brand new multiplying waveshaper giving the effect of a VCO in hard sync with the core. Furthermore, there are three outputs that fade between Sine and Saw, Square and Spike (a Buchla Music Easel classic).

In other words, there is a “Richness” control that multiplies the Saw, Square and Pulse and a “Timbre” control that fades from Sine and the richer multiplied waveforms.


Not the move I had in mind ! Looks really nice and in keeping with the new slimmer design.

Edit :

Also this :

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Noise + Filter
Clever module based on four bands of Verbos barkfilter and one noise source

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On four hp there is a fixed filter bank with four bands, noise source and external input. The noise source is normalized to the input of the filter bank. If no input signal is present, white noise and four filtered versions are obtained at the outputs. If you feed in one signal, you get four filtered versions at the filter outputs and the white noise at the noise output.

The four frequency bands are:

>4,4k

1,7k - 4,4k

630 – 1,7k

<630

This seems perfect for quick and cool percussions paired with a lpg. And I'm in dire need of a good noise source.
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Post by Euro Trash Bazooka » Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:14 pm

And that NF module is pretty cheap too.

I hope that does mean the panel is some cheap PCB panel. I love how sturdy Verbos modules feel.

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Post by kingcons » Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:06 pm

I hope this shows up at Perfect Circuit soon. I have a semi-desperate need for a 10hp version of ATC to complete this case: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/1030613

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Post by bollyhood » Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:19 pm

Tumulishroomaroom wrote: Noise + Filter
Clever module based on four bands of Verbos barkfilter and one noise source

Details

On four hp there is a fixed filter bank with four bands, noise source and external input. The noise source is normalized to the input of the filter bank. If no input signal is present, white noise and four filtered versions are obtained at the outputs. If you feed in one signal, you get four filtered versions at the filter outputs and the white noise at the noise output.

The four frequency bands are:

>4,4k

1,7k - 4,4k

630 – 1,7k

<630
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This seems perfect for quick and cool percussions paired with a lpg. And I'm in dire need of a good noise source.
Damn, waant! Would be a nice simple 4-band Bark if you pair it with the Scan and Pan.

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Post by stephentrask » Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:27 pm

I was hoping for a new oscillator.
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Post by bollyhood » Tue Dec 17, 2019 6:44 pm

stephentrask wrote:I was hoping for a new oscillator.
you should probably read again a little closer

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Post by stephentrask » Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:23 pm

bollyhood wrote:
stephentrask wrote:I was hoping for a new oscillator.
you should probably read again a little closer
I don't get it. I was hoping for a new oscillator and I'm happy that there is one. You should read what I wrote with a different tone.
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Post by zerodivide » Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:46 am

in the Schneider's details for the new Amp & Tone

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The circuit is now constructed without vactrols and uses a discrete trasistor circuit instead. This sounds a bit different than it's predecessor.

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Post by Nutritional Zero » Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:51 am

stephentrask wrote:
bollyhood wrote:
stephentrask wrote:I was hoping for a new oscillator.
you should probably read again a little closer
I don't get it. I was hoping for a new oscillator and I'm happy that there is one. You should read what I wrote with a different tone.
:hmm:

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Post by zerodivide » Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:52 am

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hmm no FM input on the Foundation oscillator?

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Post by nios » Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:57 am

I'm assuming the CV in next to v/oct is the same as FM.

It does seem to lack sync outright however, but they also claim it can make sync-like sounds from its richness/timbre sections.

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Post by zerodivide » Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:27 am

nios wrote:I'm assuming the CV in next to v/oct is the same as FM.

It does seem to lack sync outright however, but they also claim it can make sync-like sounds from its richness/timbre sections.
that actually leads to a question I had on my Verbos Complex Oscillator. I have FM input and CV Input under the modulating Oscillator. So on the Complex Oscillator they are def not the same thing. I'm not quite understanding what CV input does here then. seems its closer to v/oct than FM input

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Post by Triglav » Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:35 am

The fm input is linear fm, while the cv input is exponential fm.

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Post by belsina » Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:36 am

zerodivide wrote:
nios wrote:I'm assuming the CV in next to v/oct is the same as FM.

It does seem to lack sync outright however, but they also claim it can make sync-like sounds from its richness/timbre sections.
that actually leads to a question I had on my Verbos Complex Oscillator. I have FM input and CV Input under the modulating Oscillator. So on the Complex Oscillator they are def not the same thing. I'm not quite understanding what CV input does here then. seems its closer to v/oct than FM input
The complex has linear FM (unipolar CV In)and exponential FM (bipolar FM in).
The linear FM input on the Complex Osc is unipolar, the Foundation Osc has an bipolar input.

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Post by zerodivide » Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:25 am

ah thanks for that guys. but wait when you select the FM switch and have nothing input into either FM or CV input, is the default linear or exponential?

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Post by belsina » Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:40 am

PS: not the input himself is uni/ bipolar. Only the knob/ regulation... just for a better understanding.

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Post by zerodivide » Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:41 am

belsina wrote:PS: not the input himself is uni/ bipolar. Only the knob/ regulation... just for a better understanding.
yeah I just realized the diagram over the knobs showing you whether its an attenuator or attenuverter

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Post by Eurtrude » Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:45 am

zerodivide wrote:ah thanks for that guys. but wait when you select the FM switch and have nothing input into either FM or CV input, is the default linear or exponential?
When using the pre-routed FM (FM switch), it's exponential FM

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Post by zerodivide » Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:52 am

Eurtrude wrote:
zerodivide wrote:ah thanks for that guys. but wait when you select the FM switch and have nothing input into either FM or CV input, is the default linear or exponential?
When using the pre-routed FM (FM switch), it's exponential FM
word. Is there some manual other than that tiny cover sheet thing?

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Post by Eurtrude » Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:06 am

zerodivide wrote:
Eurtrude wrote:
zerodivide wrote:ah thanks for that guys. but wait when you select the FM switch and have nothing input into either FM or CV input, is the default linear or exponential?
When using the pre-routed FM (FM switch), it's exponential FM
word. Is there some manual other than that tiny cover sheet thing?
word ? lol...

Just use your ears : patch the tri output from the mod osc to the CV input of the carrier osc and compare that sound with what you get when using the FM Switch... same sound.

The linear FM sounds very tame in comparison.

Also check this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lQIr10eaUs

I quote from the video "the internal bus is exponential".

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Post by zerodivide » Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:26 am

Eurtrude wrote:
zerodivide wrote:
Eurtrude wrote:
zerodivide wrote:ah thanks for that guys. but wait when you select the FM switch and have nothing input into either FM or CV input, is the default linear or exponential?
When using the pre-routed FM (FM switch), it's exponential FM
word. Is there some manual other than that tiny cover sheet thing?
word ? lol...

Just use your ears : patch the tri output from the mod osc to the CV input of the carrier osc and compare that sound with what you get when using the FM Switch... same sound.

The linear FM sounds very tame in comparison.

Also check this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lQIr10eaUs

I quote from the video "the internal bus is exponential".
word = slang for "I see". I did try that btw. To my ears somehow FM switch sounds different than patching manually

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