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MusicThing Radio Music -- sounds, patches, ideas
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Author MusicThing Radio Music -- sounds, patches, ideas
MrBiggs
Starting a thread here for the MusicThing Radio Music module. Not about the build -- there's a great thread in the DIY area for that. But about using it once it's put together.

I completed mine over the weekend with just a few hiccups (that cursed button) and immediately went to recording the output of my transistor radio, mostly on AM frequencies. I've posted a folder of the resulting raw files, edited and exported in Audacity. I also have a folder full of edits from the Conet Project that I'll zip up and post as soon as I can get it done.

This one is 89mb. The samples are no longer than 15-20 seconds, for the most part. There are 23 files but now as I look at the filenames and recall what I recorded, I'm not certain that the Radio Music is playing them all as I scan through the stations. I'll explore this and if anyone notices anything, let me know.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c231h1jvenngj1p/RADIOMUSIC_AM_BIGGS.zip?dl=0

It would be really great if someone with the know-how-to built a central repository where we can put these things.

Looking forward to hearing other's samples and ideas.
Tombola
MrBiggs wrote:


It would be really great if someone with the know-how-to built a central repository where we can put these things.

Looking forward to hearing other's samples and ideas.


The easiest place to start is here in the Wiki:
https://github.com/TomWhitwell/RadioMusic/wiki/Audio-packs-for-the-Rad io-Music-module

You need a github login, but I don't think you even need any permission to edit. But you can't store big folders there.
MrBiggs
Thanks Tom -- I didn't realize anyone could post stuff there. That would make the most sense, for sure. How big is "big?"
I'll look into it after I get the teenagers out of the house and the coffee is drinked.
moofi
Pleasant idea. And those samples are pleasing aswell. thumbs up
While opening in Audition I dialed in a samplerate of 8kHz at one point transforming the MEX.raw file into some dark soundcollage. Could be an interesting basis for additional samplecreation. Radio Music is still in assemblance here, so no further testing possible yet. Then I´m very much looking forward to compiling/contributing samples aswell.
Tombola
+ In terms of demos etc, I've just updated this page, with all the demo videos / sounds I've seen:

http://musicthing.co.uk/modular/?p=1087
tmcnvs
Posted the first piece here in the build thread in the DIY-subforum, but since this thread started up I thought it more suitable here.

Lovely module, easy build, so far very very inspirational and useful. Thanks Tombola for another great module design! thumbs up


[soundcloud url="https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/192115706" params="auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_use r=true&show_reposts=false&visual=true" width="100%" height="450" iframe="true" /]


[soundcloud url="https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/192687083" params="auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_use r=true&show_reposts=false&visual=true" width="100%" height="450" iframe="true" /]
MrBiggs
Here is a few minutes of dialing the knobs with my aforementioned AM radio samples, and the Conet samples.

[soundcloud url="https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/192962972" params="auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_use r=true&show_reposts=false&visual=true" width="100%" height="450" iframe="true" /]

The Conet pack is here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/avig1jcn2sjvpql/RADIOMUSIC_CONET_BIGGS.zip?d l=0

I'll get it up on the GitHub page asap.
r05c03
I love the idea of this module. For it to use the samples they all have to be separate files, yes?
MrBiggs
Well it's a bit more complicated than that, but yes. There are 16 folders, each with up to 75 files. The module scans each folder as a bank, and plays the files back as "stations." So for my examples, I have one bank full of the AM radio samples, 23 separate files, and one bank with 21 Conet samples.

Tombola's documentation is extremely thorough about this and everything else.
https://github.com/TomWhitwell/RadioMusic/wiki/SD-Card%3A-Format-%26-F ile-Structure
pwranml
Tombola
Any chance of an expander for this jawn?

Control of pitch and/or speed is kinda vital to this fitting into my workflow.

I think it was talked about maybe on one of the DIY threads but there are so many pages to skim through.

Might grab one just to load things on to the phonogene and tyme sefari anyway. I'm sure I'd find a ton of uses for it still. It's dumb of me to look at something amazing that someones made and hold it to these weird arbitrary standards that I have for a sampling module.
MrBiggs
Expander would be interesting.

But it's not really a sampler. It's a sample-player, with the caveat that it's imitating a radio. So, like a radio, the output is whatever the output is. The interesting thing that keeps it from being just another sample player is how the samples are always "playing." With my short bits it's less effective, but with longer samples it can really get interesting.
From there, one can manipulate it as desired. In my case, and it sounds like in yours too, pwranml, it's definitely friends with the Phonogene and Tyme Sefari.

These limitations are a lot of what I like about it.
Kingnimrod
want pitch/speed control? grab a Clouds when you can and run the radio music through it. They are a great pair!
cold_fashioned
Good call on starting this thread. I just built my Radio Music over the weekend, and I already love it! I can't wait to create some of my own sample banks. I'm already thinking about ripping chunks out of my favorite tv show (LOST), and maybe some movies (Ghost in the Shell, Big Lebowski?!) The sky is the limit at the moment. One question is what is everyone using for extracting audio? I was thinking of just using Audio Hijack, and then converting the resulting files into .RAW format. I'll update when I've given that a try, to let everyone know how that worked. It also looks like I'll need to get a Git account.
Kingnimrod
there is a firefox browser extension that allows you to download youtube video audio. I've been using that and converting to raw with Audacity on the mac. Tons of good weird stuff on youtube.
MrBiggs
I use some youtube extracting website my teenager told me about.

Maybe this one. http://www.listentoyoutube.com

But there are a lot of them. Some are crap.
r05c03
Audio Hijack will record audio straight from anything that you can listen to on the inter webs.
r05c03
http://everynoise.com/engenremap.html
Tombola
r05c03 wrote:
Audio Hijack will record audio straight from anything that you can listen to on the inter webs.


All the global radio stations in the suggested audio library were ripped from web radio via Audio Hijack - it's worth paying for the full version

https://github.com/TomWhitwell/RadioMusic/wiki/Audio-for-the-SD-Card
memes_33
MrBiggs wrote:
I use some youtube extracting website my teenager told me about.

Maybe this one. http://www.listentoyoutube.com

But there are a lot of them. Some are crap.


i've used this one with great success in the past:

http://www.clipconverter.cc/
cold_fashioned
Tombola wrote:
r05c03 wrote:
Audio Hijack will record audio straight from anything that you can listen to on the inter webs.


All the global radio stations in the suggested audio library were ripped from web radio via Audio Hijack - it's worth paying for the full version

https://github.com/TomWhitwell/RadioMusic/wiki/Audio-for-the-SD-Card


Thanks for the heads up - I'll continue to use Audio Hijack (and probably pay for the full version).
echoplex
tmcnvs wrote:
Posted the first piece here in the build thread in the DIY-subforum, but since this thread started up I thought it more suitable here.

Lovely module, easy build, so far very very inspirational and useful. Thanks Tombola for another great module design! thumbs up


[soundcloud url="https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/192115706" params="auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_use r=true&show_reposts=false&visual=true" width="100%" height="450" iframe="true" /]


[soundcloud url="https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/192687083" params="auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_use r=true&show_reposts=false&visual=true" width="100%" height="450" iframe="true" /]



just finished my module today..
Those demos are great.. what samples did you use? Own ones or the suggested sound libary?
https://github.com/TomWhitwell/RadioMusic/wiki/Audio-for-the-SD-Card

BTW: has anyone yet tried how long can samples be?
Up to 20 minutes would be killer ?! .. but I am afraid not?
privong
Kingnimrod wrote:
there is a firefox browser extension that allows you to download youtube video audio. I've been using that and converting to raw with Audacity on the mac. Tons of good weird stuff on youtube.


If you don't mind using the command line, youtube-dl is awesome and very flexible: https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl

Running:
youtube-dl -x (url)
will download the highest quality vid and extract the audio for you. (other options available, obviously, if looking for a grittier, lower quality)
Tombola
echoplex wrote:

just finished my module today..
Those demos are great.. what samples did you use? Own ones or the suggested sound libary?
https://github.com/TomWhitwell/RadioMusic/wiki/Audio-for-the-SD-Card

BTW: has anyone yet tried how long can samples be?
Up to 20 minutes would be killer ?! .. but I am afraid not?


Most of the radio samples in the first bank are 30 minutes long = 150mb.

I think the limitation might be the FAT32 format, which can hold files up to 4gb, which should be about 13 hours long in this format.

I certainly haven't tried that, but 20 minutes is definitely fine.
tmcnvs
echoplex wrote:


just finished my module today..
Those demos are great.. what samples did you use? Own ones or the suggested sound libary?
https://github.com/TomWhitwell/RadioMusic/wiki/Audio-for-the-SD-Card


Thank you!
They are my own samples. Radiomusic 001 is based on recordings of cymbals, some guitar/piano loops and some fieldrecordings, and Radiomusic 002 are solely my own recordings of twisting and bending more or less frozen branches and trees in the middle of the night this winter.
eole
great topic!
haven't soldered my module yet...
hyper
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