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zerosum Modulation Maniac
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:11 am Post subject: |
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I love the delay and feedback on this monster, it makes me able to "play" with the sound in a way that feels like guitar feedback.
Here is a 7 minute jam with the left side into the TX-1 and the right side into the TBD.
I am playing with the BPM,delay,output hack,and grunge section.
Evolver sludge jam _________________ |zerosuminertia.com|
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Muff Wiggler The cake is a lie.
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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cool demos 8)
i don't know what my problem is with the evolver, i really don't. nothing against your demos at all, but it's so wierd - nothing i've ever heard from an evolver has sparked even the smallest amount of interest in me... and i really don't know why
chris/theallisonproject is a guy who really got me interested in modulars when i was starting out and i totally trust his opinion on most things synth...and he swears by his evolvers. but i just can't get hot on them at all... my loss i'm sure
wierd, huh? _________________ a new tomorrow, yesterday |
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Muff Wiggler The cake is a lie.
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:25 am Post subject: |
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seriously, chris has three evolvers. three man. someone tell me what i'm missing here _________________ a new tomorrow, yesterday |
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Kwote Voltage Controlled Crackpot
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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i don't know but i just can't give two shits or even one about anything none modular in the synth world. even in some of the regular equipment arena. i'm dying to get enough modules to just patch up whatever musical or audio engineering thing i'm looking for.
if i had endless funds and a huge warehouse studio i'd probably add a ton of acoustic instruments to my setup and some electric guitars but i don't....right now.....muhahahahaha. but yeah i like focusing in life and right now modulars are my focus. that and skratching cuz i've been rocking the turntables since 1997 so you know i'm not gonna get over that shit. _________________ Self expression is as essential as breathing
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Muff Wiggler The cake is a lie.
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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i'm sorta with you on the buzzkill effect of non-modular instruments
but there's some exceptions
i'd really like a Waldorf Blofeld. I don't even know why
I'd also like a Voyageur RME _________________ a new tomorrow, yesterday |
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Kwote Voltage Controlled Crackpot
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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as big as i'd like my modular to be even in my mind that has some limits. my musical journey is still very much open to discovery but when i find something i really like i latch on to it pretty heavy. skratching for instance. just being able to manipulate any sound from a record is so awesome. it's like taking sampling and humanizing it to the point where it's truly it's own instrument and no digi conversion needed. that's why i love modulars, it's the perfect complement to what i've already been doing. and it's very similar in the fact that like records, you can manipulate so many different sounds with the same instrument.
but i do love acoustic stuff a lot too. but like i said, lack of funds/space. _________________ Self expression is as essential as breathing
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zerosum Modulation Maniac
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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4 sequencers,4 oscillators,4 lfos,distortion,delay, linear or exponential VCA,
assignable envelope in addition to the dedicated VCA and filter envelope.
Thats what I like about it.
I use it like I use a modular.
Its unique. Eventually I'll make some sounds that sound unique.
Im no expert with this thing,but I'm aware of its potential which is something
I feel most people are unaware of.
This is really the only synth I "care" about  _________________ |zerosuminertia.com| |
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Kwote Voltage Controlled Crackpot
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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sorry to sorta hijack your thread. just babbling. but i feel everyone's tastes it's just personal. i can see why getting into non modulars could be appealing. afterall that's how i first got into the analog synth world. _________________ Self expression is as essential as breathing
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zerosum Modulation Maniac
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:02 am Post subject: |
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Alright I just made a second VIRB page dedicated to my favorite little box and Im uploading more EvOlVeR sounds right now.
http://virb.com/zerosuminertia2
Should be done in a few minutes, right now it looks horrid  _________________ |zerosuminertia.com| |
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B13 Learning to Wiggle
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Evolver Sludge Jam = AMAZING
I have always wondered how crazy this thing could get, much better example than anything else I've heard. Thanks |
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Muff Wiggler The cake is a lie.
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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holy crap! big mess of evolver tracks. somehow I missed zerosum's post in january.. i know what i'll be listning to tonight!
thanks for bumping this thread B13! _________________ a new tomorrow, yesterday |
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flts Veteran Wiggler
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 3:32 am Post subject: |
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| I'll add mine for a while then.. recorded some random Evolver seqs I made before I borrowed my desktop Evo to a friend: http://vae.stc.cx/evolver_potpourri.mp3 (beware, they aren't that well level matched, one of them is somewhat louder than the others). They're kinda more "bread and butter" but there is a Karplus-Strong patch and other fun stuff in there too... |
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GeneralBigBag Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| K-S on the evolver is sweetness and light. |
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Muff Wiggler The cake is a lie.
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 10:42 am Post subject: |
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these are all really fun - thanks guys - i think i may have to keep my eyes open for a deal on a used evolver - really nice sounds _________________ a new tomorrow, yesterday |
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flts Veteran Wiggler
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 11:26 am Post subject: |
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I've been planning to sell mine (the desktop version) about a million times. I don't really know how much I need it in my current setup, the sound is either brilliant or boring depending on day and mood, and the compact interface is still kind of clumsy even though you learn to navigate it really fast...
And then I realize that it's conveniently small, has a metric fucktonne of features, doubles up as a nice little instrument preamp + distortion + delay + envelope filter + mayhem device, and would only be worth of about two nice eurorack modules or a single nice big sample library when sold. And keep it. |
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zerosum Modulation Maniac
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:59 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for listening everyone!
I have more on the way.
Analog Suicide and Matrix blogged the virb page.
Cool
| B13 wrote: | Evolver Sludge Jam = AMAZING
I have always wondered how crazy this thing could get, much better example than anything else I've heard. Thanks |
Thank you, that makes me feel good knowing someone out there is amused and feels the excitement.
Playing with the evolver feels like the power of playing a guitar(the feedback) and the modulation possibilities are endless like a modular. _________________ |zerosuminertia.com| |
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Kwote Voltage Controlled Crackpot
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:39 am Post subject: |
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the desktop version looks very similar to the MFB synth II i used to have. although the evolver looks more... evolved 8)
i dunno though. much as i dug the mfb i had to flip it for more modular stuff.
that was my biggest key to the modular world last year. flippin gear. worthy trade up!! _________________ Self expression is as essential as breathing
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Hey zerosum,
Are you using the editor software or just programming straight from the hardware?
I don't use my evolver that much, but I've been wondering if I would more if I used the editor. |
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consumed International Filter Conspiracy
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:36 am Post subject: |
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sick demos zero!
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there's plenty of weak analogs even today. but the evolver is not one of those. for a stupidly tiny little box, it screams analog beefiness.
one thing that zero didnt mention is that you can step through the digital waveforms just like a miniwave. i also love the feedback and delay on mine. the desktop is my ultimate portable synth. its outputs are hot enough to drive headphones too.
i dont know if i would have had the patience to program the evolver, until i got into modular and relearned synthesis again. now i can really appreciate all the features in the evolver, and the tonal quality.
i think the evolver would be my analog desert island synth. if i had to run out of my burning house with only a backpack, id take the evolver and some headphones. and some fresh underwear and a toothbrush. a pillow would be good too. _________________ bandcamp
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zerosum Modulation Maniac
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:53 am Post subject: |
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Are you using the editor software or just programming straight from the hardware? |
I haven't picked up the editor, although I planned to years ago
Just accessing everything straight from the interface which does take some getting used to(I'm still not totally used to it).
The Vyzor editor looks really nice,
but I get this feeling support for it is weak.
I should pick up the soundtower editor soon, like real soon.
Thank you! 8)
I have always enjoyed your demos as well!(i still have quite a few to catch up on....)
| Quote: | | i dont know if i would have had the patience to program the evolver, until i got into modular and relearned synthesis again. now i can really appreciate all the features in the evolver, and the tonal quality. |
I agree. _________________ |zerosuminertia.com| |
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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I've owned the desktop and mono keyboard versions of the Evolver. I think if you could have ONLY ONE monosynth, you'd be hard pressed to find a better all -around, does everything and then some, supreme value for your dollar synth than the MEK. It can do everything, it can cut like a knife through the densest mix, and with very little effort it will drag you off into usable, musical, freaky noise nirvana. Plus it's tiny and lightweight. I had issues with the desktop programming matrix (sold my Pulse for the same reason), but the MEK's knobtastic interface solved that one; there's very little not to like.
However, over here in reality, I'm a gear whore with multiple monosynths So I swapped both mono Evolvers and some cash (hmmm, probably from selling my redundant Qrack IIRC) for a Voyager. Someday I'll have enough space, power, mixer inputs, and cash in hand to get another MEK. |
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felix Loves the manuals!
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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The one thing that put me off the Evolver was that the analog oscillators were hardwired to the left and right outputs, so you could pan them internally and have a mono output 2 analog OSC patch (or even a 4 OSC mono output patch, as the digital OSCs ad the same limitation).
Did this ever get changed? A firmware update or anything? _________________ i am escigler
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flts Veteran Wiggler
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| felix wrote: | The one thing that put me off the Evolver was that the analog oscillators were hardwired to the left and right outputs, so you could pan them internally and have a mono output 2 analog OSC patch (or even a 4 OSC mono output patch, as the digital OSCs ad the same limitation).
Did this ever get changed? A firmware update or anything? |
do you mean "you couldn't"?
because you sure can now, i you can pan the whole patch either wide stereo, narrow stereo or mono. i think this has been a feature from the start since there's a label for the feature in the programming matrix and i think it's explained even in the old manual.
the bad thing is that i THINK it affects the whole patch, so it's either all stereo patch with oscillators panned L-R or all-mono patch with everything in both channels. |
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zerosum Modulation Maniac
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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I love my Evolvers. I have the Desktop and the PEK. It's a bit odd though. I use each of them completely different. I never sequence with the PEK and never use a keyboard with the desktop. That seems terribly obvious at first, but I also make totally different sounds, again, related to how I use them. The funny thing is that I prefer the desktop to the PEK. I don't mind the interface at all. That matrix is very friendly. I can make such strange sounds with it. I don't have any Evolver solo stuff handy though. The only trouble I have with them both, but more with the PEK is that they are hard to fit in a mix. The desktop is the mix, it can completely take over, and the sounds from the PEK are too cutting or overbearing or something. It probably boils down to lack of skill somewhere, but I don't have that problem with anything else. I could never get rid of either though.
The perfect one for me would be a polyevolver with a MEK sized keyboard. I'm not a fan of big keyboards usually. |
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:41 am Post subject: |
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| Cybananna wrote: | | I'm not a fan of big keyboards usually. |
i'm starting to come around to that same conclusion too. i've got a 61 midi control but i'd love to slim down to 49. _________________ Self expression is as essential as breathing
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synthetic TASCAM Hero!
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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These demos sound much nicer than the presets I've heard. I've wanted to like this synth since the beginning but every time I played with it, it did nothing for me. I know a guy who has bought it and sold it twice. I think I'll save my money for the MOTM digital stuff coming later this year. _________________ http://www.jefflaity.com/studio |
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zerosum Modulation Maniac
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I've wanted to like this synth since the beginning but every time I played with it, it did nothing for me. |
I have wanted to master this since the beginning, but so far I'm still stuck in experiment mode.
I know it can do everything I want it to do(Everything is such a big word, I know it can do most of what I want) I just need to get to it.
Its easy to get distracted with it, which is where all the crazy sound demos come from.
This is a very unique synth in so many ways, I should have picked one up way way way sooner.
If I get a software editor or a MEK with a knob for everything and display that eliminates memorizing the 3 digit display readout I think I could really expand.
Sigh.....Imagine the PEK/PER that has 2 outs for each voice!
Thanks everyone for watering this thread!
I'm sure it really gives a lot of people out there some good info on what the evolvers are capable of and why they are so unique! _________________ |zerosuminertia.com| |
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Wow..... I finally got around to sitting down and listening to all of these demo's.... I have to get me one of these damn things! lol. I think this baby..... ran midi out into my doepfer midi/cv box... clock gate to my sequential switch.... will be INSANE!!!! Run each channel out thru the modulars filters and waveshapers....MMMMM......... lol.
I'll letya guys know when I finally get one... prolly within the next month or so. Peace! and thanks for all the badass demos!!! |
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zerosum Modulation Maniac
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Kent Large Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:19 am Post subject: A full album done on a DSI Evolver |
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I stumbled across this and knew that I had to post it somewhere on this forum. This thread, although old, seemed appropriate. In order to continue the theme, click upon the mix-tape below. It can be downloaded or streamed.
Scroll down the window on the left for some informational links.
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:56 am Post subject: |
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yeah, love my evolver desktop. had it for a few years now but am only just starting to think of getting the sound tower editor for it.
Does anyone here use it? The main thing I would like to know is whether or not it has an apreggiator function as this isn't included with the synth itself.
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Thanks! I'll give it a try |
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de_raaf Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:59 am Post subject: |
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just listening to the sounds here,
need to get more busy again with my mek |
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You know, I've never really gotten into my PER. Can't really explain why.
I'd let it go for next to nothing if somebody wanted to scoop it up. |
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How Close to "nothing" are we talking about? Hit me with a PM or email, my friend. _________________ Kent™. Putting the 'ass' in "World Class" |
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